MotoGP Silverstone: Extraordinary race for Lorenzo who beats a stoic Marquez!
Incredible fight between the reigning champion and the world championship leader, who finishes second. Third and fourth place for Pedrosa and Rossi
Today we witnessed one of the most beautiful and hard-fought races in the MotoGP class at Silverstone (the venue of the British Grand Prix). A Grand Prix that ultimately rewarded a great Jorge Lorenzo, who beat his compatriot and world championship leader Marc Marquez by just 81 thousandths, who was in doubt until shortly before the start due to a dislocated shoulder, the result of a fall in the warm-up. up.
In the race, however, Marquez did not hold back, surrendering as mentioned only at the finish line to an "angry" Lorenzo, who brought Yamaha back to victory, something that had not happened since the Dutch GP, when Valentino Rossi, fourth today, won.
This success is very important from a psychological point of view, another victory for Marquez would have in fact "killed" the championship, but instead Lorenzo reduces the disadvantage over Marquez to 39 points. An advantage that is still important, but which opens new horizons for the Majorcan, with his fourth success of the year.
The one who comes out defeated, however, is Dani Pedrosa, once again unable to keep up with the pace of his two compatriots, at least until the end. From a world championship perspective, although he is better placed than Lorenzo in terms of score (he has nine points more than #99), he seems to be the one with the least chance.
Race report
Twelfth stage of the 2013 season for the riders of the MotoGP class. The race takes place at Silverstone, home of the Hertz British Grand Prix. Yesterday in the fifteen minutes of the "time" attack the world leader Marc Marquez had the upper hand, at his fifth pole of the year, but this morning he suffered a dislocation of his left shoulder in a fall during the warm up. An uphill race therefore for the Honda rookie, who will have next to him in the front row the reigning champion Jorge Lorenzo, riding the Yamaha M1 Factory and Cal Crutchlow, riding the Team Tech 3 SAT.
Second row for the second Honda Factory, the #26 Dani Pedrosa, that of the LCR Team of the German Stefan Bradl and for the Yamaha of our Valentino Rossi, riding the second M1 Factory. The third row is made up of our Andrea Dovizioso, Ducati rider, the Honda of Team Gresini with Showa suspension and Nissin brakes of Alvaro Bautista and the second Ducati of the internal team, that of the American Nicky Hayden.
Fifteenth and sixteenth time for the Ducatis of the Pramac Team of Michele Pirro and Andrea Iannone, while the Italian riders with the CRTs are Danilo Petrucci eighteenth (Ioda Suter BMW of the Came Iodaracing Team) and Claudio Corti, twentieth with the FTR Kawasaki of the NGM Mobile Team . Everything is ready for the race, 17 degrees in the air, 30 on the asphalt. Twenty laps to go (for 118 km), the traffic lights go out, the fastest at the start is Jorge Lorenzo, who started ahead of Marquez, Rossi, Bradl, Crutchlow, Pedrosa, Smith, Bautista and Dovizioso.
Positions change, Bradl moves ahead of Rossi, the first lap ends with Lorenzo in the lead ahead of Marquez, Bradl, Rossi, Pedrosa, Bautista, Crutchlow, Smith, Dovizioso and Hayden. The first two have more than 1.5 secs ahead of Bradl, while Pedrosa passes Valentino Rossi. Meanwhile, Likas Pesek falls, with one of the Ioda Suter BMWs of the Came Iodaracing Team.
Alvaro Bautista also had a good race, passing Valentino Rossi to take fifth place. Meanwhile they're scary in front! Lorenzo sets the new track record, 2'02.116, beaten the following lap by Marquez who clocks 2'01"996. Pedrosa recovers, who passes Bradl and starts chasing the first two. Amazing time for the #26 of the Repsol Honda Team, which sets the new record, 2'01"962, the first two are no longer a mirage, also because the following lap is still under the record, 2'01"941!
Pedrosa has now caught up with his two compatriots, with Marquez who so far does not appear to be suffering from any problems with the shoulder injured this morning. The top three are making the difference, Bautista who is fourth is over four seconds away, while Bradl and Rossi, fighting each other, are in fifth and sixth position, over six seconds from the top. The Top Ten is closed by Crutchlow, Smith, Hayden and Dovizioso, while the Team Pramac Ducatis of Andrea Iannone and Michele Pirro are in twelfth and fifteenth position. Danilo Petrucci from Terni had a good race, sixteenth with the Ioda Suter BMW.
Having reached the halfway point of the race we find Lorenzo, Marquez and Pedrosa within half a second, while Valentino Rossi is fifth after overtaking the German Team LCR Stefan Bradl. An attack seems imminent, but Lorenzo resists for the moment. However, it was a race worth remembering for all three, the first because it is the only Yamaha at the top, the second for the condition of his shoulder and the third for the recovery made after a less than perfect start.
Five laps to go, the first three have drawn a blank, with Pedrosa losing a little compared to his two compatriots. Behind Bautista is ahead of Rossi, Bradl, Crutchlow, Smith and Dovizioso, who passed Hayden. Valentino Rossi is also running strong, who is now just over seven tenths behind Bautista, fourth.
Last km of the race, Lorenzo is still in the lead, while Rossi passes Bautista behind him, moving into fourth position. Marquez attack! Incredible overtaking by the world championship leader who, despite his injured shoulder this morning, moved ahead of the Majorcan from Yamaha. Lorenzo replies! Beautiful duel, now the reigning champion is back in the lead, but everything is still to be played for. The final lap begins, Marquez attacks Lorenzo again, who however responds and goes on to win the fourth race of the year after an extraordinary race. Marquez was also fantastic, giving up only at the finish line and finishing ahead of Pedrosa. Also noteworthy is Valentino Rossi's overtaking of Alvaro Bautista, who "gives" him fourth place (which he had lost again a few km earlier).
Photos: Alex Farinelli
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Ok for the idiots who still believe it's an equal fight between the Yamahas and the Hondas, now with the results in hand we need to think again.
Finally a Honda rider had to get 100% out of the bike and you could see the difference. HALF A SECOND PER LAP, go and see Pedrosa's times and those of Lorenzo, when Pedrosa squeezed his bike.
Now you understand how Stoner and especially Pedrosa did it and win "easy", and how a Rookie with great talent like Marquez can stay there with Lorenzo today.
Today Jorge, who had given sound blows to Stoner and Pedrosa here, see how Stoner did at Phillip Island and Pedrosa at the Sachenring. Without that advantage given by the rider today the Yamaha is that of Rossi or worse than Crutchlow.
PS. Rossi was left on foot perhaps because he ran out of petrol, now if it's really a fuel problem, and he took 13 seconds from Lorenzo and Lorenzo was never in the slipstream, it means that in terms of electronics and mapping, there is a huge difference between the two, because the liters of fuel are the same and if the one who arrives first arrives with the most petrol and the one behind arrives with zero, I find that there is something strange.
Today we saw that Pedrosa got 100% out of the bike and as Suppo said in the race then the problem would have been the tyres. This means that the Honda riders, as Lorenzo said, can stay there and have the wait-and-see tactic of those who wait until the end of the race, save their tires and fuel and then leave Lorenzo there on the spot.
…I repeat, hide…and suffer in silence ahahahahahahahahahahah!!! Marquez is worth 1000 geriatricians... what a disgusting race he had... and he even started well... it's over, take note of it ahahahahahahahahah!!!
Who knows why when we talk about gnucchi he immediately feels called into question??? :) But who knows??? :)
...it's not a question of "nugliness", write cag@t@ as an incompetent as well as a fan of the nurse, especially with regards to petrol and the Honda half a second...it's clear that you've never ridden a motorbike in a serious way and perhaps you've never seen a race live...you're like those who still think that the geriatrician wins the championship...do the poll on the forum and you'll see that valentino has more than 40% of the votes...you're incompetents who give air to your mouth...he had Rob is right, above all... I have already had my satisfaction from these two thirds of the championship... the great handle, the one with the second in the wrist and a great tester, is failing spectacularly... with the utmost peace of all the canaries who still defend it …still looking for excuses, history to date proves the great FATMAN right ahahahahah!!!
Evidently Rossi will have used a more aggressive mapping or will have put 1 liter less in the tank... in any case the Honda has been superior to the M1 since mid-2012 (in 2011 it was always superior).
Stoner won races (the first two Spanish ones in 2012) with the "chattered" bike..then the introduction of the new tire will have caused the bike to suffer even more problems (besides the more important 4 kg ballast)...with Stoner I would be slow to say that he won "easy", some believed it was the same in Ducati... but we all know how it went.
Going back to the race I would say that Lorenzo finally made the Rookie get down to speed (For me number 99 is still the strongest rider in MotoGP), the Rookie humiliated Dani for the umpteenth time, I don't understand Dani and Rossi is where he needs to be .
Stoners like Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Marquez now and Rossi in the past certainly had more in some circuits than the others, as I think is normal.
But it is undeniable that for the vast majority of races last year and this year Honda is superior, and it was like that in 2011 too. This doesn't take away credit from the rider, it was like this even when Rossi won, if you don't have the best bike it becomes difficult, even when Rossi did the bike was either on par with or superior to its rivals.
I don't know, it could be that Rossi started with less fuel, but I would find it strange, given that this circuit is one of those with the highest average speeds in the world championship, so I would say that your thesis is really unlikely. I believe it is a mix of electronic intervention and driving type. It is likely that Lorenzo saves fuel on the road by tackling curves more quickly and therefore slows down and accelerates the bike less, saving fuel precisely in terms of riding, but certainly also in terms of electronics, in terms of mapping he manages to be faster and consume either the same amount of fuel or less.
As for Lorenzo as a rider, I also believe he is the best at the moment, even if Marquez and Pedrosa are not far away.
As for Pedrosa, in my opinion he had an exemplary race today, he was "slow" in qualifying. Today he showed that he knows how to use Honda 100% in the race, Marquez only knows how to use it 100% in practice for the moment. In the race, thanks to the margin that the Honda Motorcycle has over the Yamaha Motorcycle, it manages to manage.
This is why I think I'll change Seamless or not, Lorenzo between now and the end of the championship if Marquez or Pedrosa don't break the world championship he won't win it. Not because he is less good, but because this gap between Honda and Yamaha is too large to bridge on the first try with the new Seamless and with Lorenzo's talent, in my opinion more time is needed, because once Seamless is introduced then you have to set it up correctly and learning to exploit it 100% in any way that allows you to improve lap performance, and this takes time, probably about a year, also seeing how long it took Honda to put it on the track and improve it from year to year.
I don't agree with Pedrosa's masterful race, I'll start by saying that I have a lot of respect for the man and I admire the rider, at the start of the championship I gave Pedrosa as the favorite for the title, immediately after Jorge and Marquez with a few more changes than Vale...but things they are very different with Marquez at the top of the standings and constantly on the podium when he doesn't win, Jorge having to squeeze himself like a lemon to try to keep up with the Honda and Dani suffering terribly from his new teammate.
Dani certainly did a series of monstrous laps to close the gap with the first two and managed to close...but then he wasn't able to land the winning shot on Marquez...see the Analysisbylap pdf on the motogp website. Dani was masterful in recovering the gap and lapping glued to Marquez and Lorenzo but this is not enough to win the title, you have to put the wheels in front of the opponent like Jorge did, giving his heart... Pedrosa last year made a second part of the season as n°1 thanks to him (who rode great as always but much more aggressive and determined to win) and Honda who gave him a fantastic bike, with the Australian's injury it was easier for him to go fast because he no longer had the uncomfortable internal comparison and if the patatrack at Misano didn't happen maybe maybe... Pedrosa drives great, personally I think he is one of the most technical riders of the lot but he lacks the hunger for victory (and a bit of malice)...as Jorge demonstrated several times and in particular yesterday..as Marc always demonstrates and as Stoner and Rossi did in the past...this is Dani's limit and I'm sorry because he deserves the title but never succeeds to conquer it…
Yes, well Stonami certainly can be criticized at world championship level, as well as Lorenzo, due to the unnecessary injury that they both suffered in practice and which they could have easily avoided, especially from 2 experienced riders like them.
As far as this race is concerned, as he himself admitted, the mistake was made on Saturday, not during the race. I think that Pedrosa didn't suffer from Stoner and I don't think he suffers from Marquez, he certainly doesn't like finishing behind, but I think that for him it's a stimulus to have Marquez in the team as it was to have Stoner, in the sense that in my opinion these teammates 'They've made it stronger than it was a few years ago, where it was always second.
Even in yesterday's GP we saw him make one overtaking after another in the early stages, perhaps it took him a little longer than Lorenzo Marquez and the Rossi of the past would have taken, but I don't think he can do it make other criticisms except perhaps that sometimes he doesn't have the right decision in attacking.
I also remember the accident he had with Simoncelli, if you remember they both went beyond the limit in that braking, so in my opinion Pedrosa also has the determination to throw himself in, if he doesn't I think it's either for fear of getting hurt or because as happened yesterday he no longer had any. Even in Brno he had a little more than Marquez, but either due to the arm injury or due to a too wait-and-see tactic he wasn't able to take advantage of the margin he had.
We'll see if in this second part of the championship there will be a wake-up call like last year, or if Marquez will try to win the world championship in peace, although we can talk about peace of mind with the 3 Spaniards up front :).
they had the courage to say that when Rossi went to Honda, the bike wasn't as strong as it is now………………………………
they no longer know what excuses to make………….
:-)))))
nice race! incredible Lorenzo and Marquez.
pedrosa bad, not so much for the position but for the fact that he never seems to try.
However, the Honda is clearly superior and forgives many of the drivers' mistakes. the only one who manages to keep up with the Yamaha is, coincidentally, the one who has been there for the most years (Lorenzo eh!)
Rossi good 4th all in all, something is still missing, but in any case he seems to be slightly improving. crutchlow bad, very bad. there are 3 races without a good one. he seems interested in doing fast laps and quick forays into the podium area, without thinking about the race instead. really bad today, usually he gave more distance to smith. Ducatis are bad then :(
I think it's a huge shame that he was betrayed by the bike in the last corners, I don't think he was involved in any overtaking.
I correct myself... it's been 4 races since Cal hasn't been good... thank goodness the official "deserved" (for what reason then?)... at least Rossi doesn't always get fooled at the last corner, and ABOVE ALL he doesn't do anonymous races like those of cal to laguna seca and here... or at least, if he does them, he doesn't reach 7th.
…valem@rd@!!! With Valentino poker was useful ahahahah... fourth place guaranteed... but aren't you ashamed to defend it? For those like you, internment (or at least the death penalty) would be necessary!!!
Aren't you ashamed to write what you write instead?
…no, I'm not ashamed…I'm notoriously a s@erd@!!!
maybe because the bikes are not the same…..
Who said they are the same? I'm not. they are similar (poncharal dixit)
I just said that in addition to the bike, the rider on it is not the same...
In fact, it seems obvious to me that Caracciolo is a great handler but nothing special... don't get me wrong, I like Cal and I also like him as a guide, the problem is that he's unfriendly like few others.
the bike will be what it will be but he will do his best not to get better results, I'm sure of that. and it's a flaw in him. small, if you like, but it's there.
I repeat, there are several races that, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE THE POTENTIAL, do not exploit it.
Examples? dry lagoon. he arrived behind fresh riders fresh from injury, and was coming off a second place at the sachsenring eh..
indianapolis, where he got 4th place stolen like a rookie... had he concentrated on the race instead of bautista, rossi wouldn't have overtaken him.
in the Czech Republic he then wanted to overdo it, and in any case he went significantly slower than what was shown IN THE WARMUP a few HOURS earlier.
in essence, I would say that he is a fast rider, but he is a long way away from asking for an official Japanese one. he's a bit like Dovi, an excellent driver but certainly not a champion... only that he seems to have replaced our driver's consistency with a good bit of "fizz".. which doesn't hurt... it's just that from this to praising him as pilot who was 'denied' from official status... he's okay with it!
...be satisfied with fourth place and keep quiet...with the world champion bike he can't shake off Bautista while Jorge wins and gives him 13 seconds...and then he too once had the best bike...the wheel turns and the paramedic's wheel turns it's stopping ahahahahahahahahahah…valem@rd@!!!
Lorenzo!!!Marquez!!! Great emotions, like when Rossi stripped the 32-year-old champion, the greatest two-wheel phenomenon, Sete Gibernau :DDD. (but did he stand on the sofa for that short a time?)
Another epic duel with Battista, a great talent who in the end must surrender to the multi-talented Polentino.
…Polentino ahahahahahah…wonderful!!!
The 2 elite riders from the forum speak, yes yes you fatman on the other hand have experience on MotoGP, which is why you are an authoritative source in which to reserve profound wisdom. Come on, win the lottery and ask to do a race on Rossi's Yamaha, how many laps were 20 at Silverstone? Maybe you can close 4 or 5 of them before the others finish the race, please keep well to the outside, lest they pass over you! :)
Ps. I believe that Rossi, not on a CRT, not on a SBK but on a production bike, would still give you a lot of pay, so at least out of respect I'm not saying towards Rossi but towards yourselves, perhaps you should think carefully before assigning nicknames to extremely professional riders won!
...today's Rossi would get a couple of laps from a testoner and from me...anyway compared to myself you don't know a thing ahahahahahahahah!!!
the fact that many athletes criticize Rossi in these last races and because when he won he had no respect for his opponents, on the contrary he mocked them with all those coaxing that the doll did after the arrival etc.etc. something that these true champions of today don't do and what was annoying was that he knew he had the most competitive bike like now that we understand that the most competitive bike is the Honda in fact and Lorenzo who makes it value more
…well done Vanni, you hit the nail on the head…all those painful scenes that denigrated the other drivers…good thing for him now that he's getting paid…valem@rd@!
…gigetto, have you seen how irreducible Ronnie is? Instead of Medio Man we could call him Meda Man, that's the brain ahahahahahahah!!!
Okay but Ronnie is nice, I don't think he offends due to the lack of alternatives, at most he takes the piss. (maybe I'm wrong)
I think that Rossi had a different engine mapping than Lorenzo in order to have a little more power but consumed more fuel. My opinion is not critical but purely technical. On the other hand, with those damned only this can happen
Look at vanni44g I don't think it's about power or torque, the speed of the two on the straight is practically the same, slightly in favor of Rossi, who however was several laps in the wake of the Hondas of Bautista and Bradl.
Rossi TOP 5 speeds of the Silverstone GP:
318.6 / 318.0 / 318.0 / 317.6 / 317.6 / 318.0
Maximum speed 318.6, the sixth of the GP
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Lorenzo TOP 5 speeds of the Silverstone GP:
317.1 / 316.2 / 316.0 / 315.9 / 315.9 /316.2
Maximum speed 317.1, the ninth of the GP
Consider that Rossi spent much more time in the slipstream while Jorge was only one step behind Marquez and that the trend of the weekend seemed to me to be that Rossi was always slightly faster than Jorge, probably due to a slightly more aerodynamic position than Rossi on the straight, but very little like half maximum 1km/h better on average.
Fantastic race!
Jorge was PERFECT and in my opinion, this is currently the best race he has contested in his career!
That was great!
With a bike clearly inferior to the Hondas he managed to put them behind them!
This shows that he is currently the strongest rider!
Marc, very good, perfect tactic... Even though I don't read insults for what you have done and what you are doing. That is, you stay behind and study your opponent... Certain elements insulted Rossi for this too! Two weights and two measures :)
Anyway very good!
Pedrosa... Disappointing, the accident and Marc's strength weigh heavily on a mental level.
Maybe with a victory he will unblock himself and he will return to last year's title (second part) and the one before Assen... Too bad, he could have easily won the title (given the strength of his bike), but instead it's all uphill.
Valentino... As usual, the first part of the race was very flawed. Difficult, very difficult. If you lose the good train you no longer have references here for the leaders which allow you to remove even those 2/3 tenths of pace per lap, necessary to get to the podium and win.
Jorge is the one who struck me the most. He was great, he makes the difference!
Ducati… As usual.
In my opinion, Pedrosa only disappointed in practice, he drove a masterful race, recovering 3 seconds and 3 on the leaders who weren't going anywhere.
Obviously he ran out of tire by pulling a lot but he finally showed what the gap is between Honda and Yamaha.
As far as Rossi is concerned, despite the circuit not being favorable to him, he had a race like any other, losing a lot on the first lap, and on the following lap, then losing considerable time with every overtaking he took and with every overtaking he made. For the rest his gap from Lorenzo was the same as on other circuits from 1 to 6 tenths per lap, I see it as hard to catch up on this Lorenzo.
Lorenzo's race is masterful. or Marc's…
If you give everything to recover by "destroying", or rather by excessively wearing the tyre, it is not a masterly race...
Especially if you've been racing in the top class for YEARS...
You expect certain errors in judgment from a rookie, not from an experienced rider like Pedrosa...
In my opinion, his was a decent race, in relation to the bike he has under his seat...
I also find it hard to recover and do what Lorenzo does…. meh… Did I perhaps write the opposite in my previous post?
bcs is fine but you're one of those who is never happy with Pedrosa even when he wins then :).
Poor Pedrosa isn't racing against rookies, or I've never seen anyone apart from Rossi recover a Marquez and a Lorenzo in so few laps. Unfortunately, today's MotoGP makes you understand that everyone is at their limit with the tires and if you gain more than 2-3 seconds then recovering even if it's within your means leads to problems or fuel consumption or tire consumption.
Lorenzo did a perfect race as he had already done in Brno except that here, whether Marquez's injury or the fact that he has something more on this circuit, they allowed him to stay in the race until the last lap.
PS. if he stays behind well it's not good, if he recovers an impossible gap it's not good damn but poor Pedrosa never gets it right haha come on poor guy at least when he tries, let's tell him he was good damn :)
Well done, yes, we are talking about one of the strongest riders in the world...
But he didn't have a masterful race...
Masterful is one thing, good racing is another...
Especially if you have years and years of experience with these bikes and tires behind you.
You know how they work, you know what grip they offer you based on how much you use them and the breakers.
It's not true that I'm never happy with Pedrosa.
He was my favorite and I honestly believed that the title was just a formality... Either for the strength of the bike or for the strength that Pedrosa had achieved...
But if to say that he didn't have a masterful race (because he didn't) is to be against Pedrosa...
I don't know bcs, in your opinion was it possible to recover 3 seconds to the first 2 without running into tire wear? Look, Pedrosa "simply" printed Marquez's record a few laps earlier for 3 or 4 laps in a row and remained for 3 laps in a row in 30 fucks, thousandths of a damn. Do you understand what the hell he did in the race? It is more consistent than that of Lorenzo and Marquez, in my opinion he was perfect in the race, it was the qualifying sessions that he did badly.
Pedrosa:
4th 2'01.970 / 5th 2'01.962 / 6th 2'01.941 / 7th 2'02.143
Marquez:
4th 2'02.303 / 5th 2'02.482 / 6th 2'02.646 / 7th 2'02.804
Lawrence:
4th 2'02.338 / 5th 2'02.539 / 6th 2'02.655 / 7th 2'02.633
Remember that he didn't come back because those in front waited for him, or because they were going slowly or because they fought.
Did I perhaps write that he was the slowest on the track?
Did I perhaps write that he didn't have the pace to win?
NO... don't be like a liger who always reads what you want...
Pedrosa didn't have a perfect race... With those times he put too much stress on the tires (BY HIS OWN ADMISSION!), thus frustrating his chances of victory...
If he had been more patient he would have won hands down….
Certain errors in judgments are expected from someone with little experience, not from someone with years and years behind them on these bikes….
His was not a perfect or masterful race….
But this doesn't mean never being happy with Pedrosa or always having something to say about what he does (usually these are topics that are brought up when you don't know the answer).
I would kindly ask you to tone it down, also because if you continue like this I won't answer you.
Hello
bcs calm down christ every time you interpret my messages in your own way as personal criticisms of what you have written always reading misunderstandings, and then you tell me that I misunderstand you and I put words in your mouth that you didn't say, and you always end up mouthing words to me that I have never written :P peace and love :)
I don't know bcs, in your opinion was it possible to recover 3 seconds to the first 2 without running into tire wear?
From what you wrote, I think the answer to this question is implied. Or in your opinion by going slightly slower but for more laps Pedrosa would have returned under him without tearing up the tyres.
Maybe you're right, maybe not, I don't know, maybe he could have alternated fast laps with slower laps, but after all that's what those in front were already doing to keep tire wear under control. I don't know if he would have been able to recover that much, there were so many laps left, but well, maybe Lorenzo and Marquez, if the recovery had been more progressive, would have gone even further to prevent him from returning. But maybe you're right, with the final battle between Lorenzo and Marquez Pedrosa would certainly have managed to come back, even if the two did not lower the race pace while they were fighting.
I don't know, it's difficult to say, however Pedrosa would have needed at least one study lap each to make the overtaking, without considering that Marquez and Lorenzo would probably have responded. It certainly would have been a different race, perhaps if everything had gone well for him, we would have at least seen him fight with the leaders a little more.
I avoid answering…
You know if I do this I have to calm down….
Hi Ronnie.
Yes, I can't read, sorry...
You teach me?
Oops, I need to calm down.
I didn't make a masterful comment, forgive me, I'm never happy :)
What I wrote is what I think, and they are the reasons why I believe he had a race which in my opinion is masterful, then everyone interprets and thinks what they want, I just wanted to point out what in my opinion are the reasons for who I think had a masterly race. Then the result, i.e. the usual third place, may be mediocre, but in my opinion considering the position from which he started, and how much he recovered especially in terms of delay, it was a performance, which at this moment perhaps not even Marquez would be capable of to do.
Then he ran into wear problems, but when in recent years we have seen a similar recovery, with such fast riders, I believe that perhaps Stoner managed it with the Honda and that's it, then going on to win alone. But I think the level of the other riders and bikes was not the same as this race at Silversotne.
.........
From the dictionary:
masterful: Worthy of a master.
Italian(G)lian is not an opinion.
If for you the race done by Pedrosa is "worthy of a master", good for you...
But someone who gives everything he has (proving to be the fastest, given that even afterwards he managed to stay with them, despite having put too much stress on the tyres), who has YEARS of experience with these bikes/tyres….
I don't continue, because then I get written that I need to calm down...
Hi guys, hit and run…
Terrific race, Marc's last corner was panic-inducing, Lorenzo is simply the best rider currently around, he's worth it, I don't mind, I still don't know how much you can complain about the bike (in any case not up to the level of the Honda) and how much on the driver... it will certainly make us have more fun, even just playing for the 4th minute with Alvaro or Cracillo... ;)
I hope he solves the problems he has with the tyres, but if the others go fast with these, he has to do the same, sooner or later.
See you next time, and don't slaughter yourselves, you only have one liver...;)
*Some don't even know that anymore... hihihi :)
Aeneas
…try to allow even more time to pass before returning to the forum, we don't miss you ahahahahahahah!!!
Yes fatima, I love you too… hihihi ^^
Aeneas
Always a lot of fury about Valentino, who knows why you always have him in mind...maybe it wasn't and isn't so bad now if you always compare him!
And as for Pedrosa everyone says: bad, disappointing, he doesn't push... yes, he's always on the podium too...
Lorenzo and Marc are certainly very good but let's not be like all sports journalists who exalt athletes as divinities and then nothing is enough to ruin them with words and consider them small or finished!!!
Well done drivers, great race!!!
LONG LIVE FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL SPORT!!!!!
Medaset's editorial line is always and with conviction espoused by crime fans, even if it is false, there is a lot of talk about Honda's superiority, where does this come from? given that medaset, nor its fans, and no one has put the bike on the bench or tested it.
I see a Yamaha at an advantage
departure (when Pedro started like a rocket it was electronic now what is it? even the 46 starts like a rocket, notoriously not one who has never started like a rocket)
cornering (the Hondas slide, the Yamaha leads the way with lots and lots of grip, if this isn't electronic what is it? After the bends the Yamaha took a slight advantage but it took advantage)
chassis and suspensions (on potholes in Silverstone like corrugated toles the Honda jumps noticeably with high losses of grip, the Yamaha jumps but in a much, much less marked way, what's the matter?
engine (on the long straights of Silverstone the Yamaha without TRAIL wasn't approached by the Hondas who could exploit the slipstream so the story doesn't hold up)
when braking, the Honda breaks down in panic, the Yamaha, much, much less, what's the matter?
will it be marquez's style? ok but pedrosa drives more like Lorenzo and the gaps between the two are never more than 2" per race.
yesterday, that funny guy, not to mention very biased, went off the rails and claimed that the Yamaha is the 46's and not Lorenzo's, if that were the case Lorenzo gave the 46 a good 650 thousandths of an average per lap given that at the end of the race he got 13.5" not to mention then where he got 16.5 from Lorenzo and Brno ended up 8" behind Lorenzo, therefore with an average of the last 3 races of around 12" / 13"....it doesn't hold up, not even for you as it is over 1/2" to around and only one has 1/2″ in the wrist and it's not Lorenzo.
Pernat was perhaps right when he said that Honda was very wrong to take Marquez instead of the 46...
NOOOOOOOOOOO
how many stupid things we have heard and how many more we will hear all to defend at all costs the 46 which is not working, it can't even cope with three broken ones.
goodnightyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Apart from the fact that the question (which is the real Yamaha) makes no sense; It's already hard to say whether Honda or YAmaha is better overall; BUT whatever answer you give, the gap remains, RIGHT NOW, Rossi is NOT as phenomenal as Lorenzo is. At least this is obvious.
...mugello, don't get angry...and think about the poem you will write at the end of the championship...I expect a masterpiece!!!
@n75
precisely .
@fatman
surely !!
(I'm angry and for what? For the truth? hahahhahaha)
ok, in the meantime start humming just to stay in training, then laughing makes you lose a couple of ounces ;-))
At the eastern fair......sings the 46
At the eastern fair, for two million, my uncle bought a Yamaha
At the eastern fair, for two million, my uncle bought a Yamaha
And Bradl came and ate the Yamaha that his uncle bought at the market
And Bradl came and ate the Yamaha that his uncle bought at the market
At the eastern fair, for two million, my uncle bought a Yamaha
And Crutchlow came, who bit Bradl, who ate the Yamaha
that my uncle bought at the market.
At the eastern fair, for two million, my father bought a little mouse
And came Pedrosa, who beat Crutchlow, who bit Bradl,
who ate the Yamaha that his uncle bought at the market.
At the eastern fair, for two million, my uncle bought a Yamaha
And came Lorenzo, who burned Pedrosa, who beat Crutchlow,
who bit Bradl, who ate the Yamaha that his uncle bought at the market.
At the eastern fair, for two million, my uncle bought a Yamaha
And Marquez came who extinguished Lorenzo who burned Pedrosa who beat Crutchlow
who bit Bradl, who ate the Yamaha that his uncle bought at the market.
And Nakamoto came and changed the rubber rule and now only with the title on the table the uncle hoped
…great, nice anticipation…I'm expecting something sensational…an o' as if Lyonn suddenly became intelligent…that's it!!!
ALL experts say that Honda is superior...
It slides in the corners, but it's not a slide that makes you lose... On the contrary... Look carefully, with this behavior the riders are better able to close the line...
Honda has been higher since mid-last year. This doesn't mean that Yamaha is a wreck...
When we talk about superiority it is a superiority of very small things, a small detail... But when you are at the highest level in everything it is the very small things that make enormous differences...
Think about the second that the Ducati takes (or so..) in a period of time, 1 second is NOTHING... But here it is an enormity.
Remember Honda from past years? Look at the one now...
I understand your wanting to shoot Rossi to zero... Well Brivio simply said that Lorenzo is the one who makes the difference (for a series of reasons), not that Yamaha is a lousy bike...
I don't see anything so scandalous about it...