MotoGP Mugello, Qualifying 2: Pole and record for Pedrosa, Dovizioso on the front row
Amazing pole for the #26 Honda who beats Lorenzo by just 69 thousandths. Only third row for Valentino Rossi
The pole position of the 2013 Tim Italian Grand Prix was conquered by an extraordinary Dani Pedrosa, who at the very end beat his compatriot Jorge Lorenzo by just 69 thousandths.
This is Pedrosa's first pole of 2013 (the 24th of his MotoGP career), achieved forcefully ahead of his rival from Yamaha and a great Andrea Dovizioso, who brings Ducati to the front row. The Forlivese achieved a great result on the home track of the Rossa di Borgo Panigale, an important result also from a psychological point of view.
The second row opens with Cal Crutchlow, who crashed in the first minutes of Q2 at Poggio Secco, returned to the pits and got back on the second bike. The Briton from Team Tech 3 brought his Yamaha SAT ahead of Stefan Bradl's Team LCR Honda and Marc Marquez's Factory Honda, thus limiting the damage after yesterday's scary crash, which was repeated this morning.
The Honda rookie preceded Valentino Rossi, who will therefore have to start from the third row. A disappointing result, which the Pesaro native had hypothesized yesterday, especially looking at previous races. The fifteen minute time attack still doesn't go down well with the former Ducati rider, who is just over seven tenths off the top. Tomorrow therefore promises to be an uphill race for him, on what is one of his favorite tracks, a special track. He will be called to a very great test, not that of the "final" appeal, but still delicate.
Another disappointing result could in fact mean a lot for the nine-time world champion, who after his excellent debut in Qatar, certainly didn't expect such a complicated start to the championship.
Behind Rossi were Nicky Hayden with the second Ducati of the internal team, Alvaro Bautista with the Honda RC213V of Team Gresini and the test rider of the red from Borgo Panigale, Michele Pirro.
Photos: Alessandro Giberti
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Rossi was a chicken to be followed first by Marquez and then by Hayden, fortunately the latter has a less competitive bike so he wasn't able to do better.
However, the sooner Rossi understands that he has to do the laps in the wake of Lorenzo or Pedrosa or Crutchlow the better, because he is not really a cat in qualifying and if you want to understand how to go fast you have to follow those who are going ahead, as Dovizioso did today and not just today.
As long as he doesn't follow those who are faster than him he will never be able to get that tenth down in each sector.
heroic Crutchlow and Marquez
Pedrosa and Lorenzo are fast
very good Dovi and Bradl
cowardly the coward on his track where he has won 150 times continues to get 7 tenths of a second from his teammate. (and 3 tenths from cal with NON-official motorbike)
2012 mugello on 46 10th 1'48.502 1.218
2013 Mugello Dovi 3rd 1'47.628 0.471
WITH THE SAME MOTORCYCLE.
SATISFACTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahaha!!! Sorry, but this one!!!
Now Rossi should follow whoever is faster!!
But he got annoyed like a cat when they got behind him!!
Eeehhh… other times… the wheel turns for everyone.
He knows he's slower, so he should do it, then it's clear that the others don't want him behind, they know that if Rossi can understand where he's going worse and how to go better it'll be hard to get rid of him in the race.
On the pace it is not clear how Marquez will go, from what we have seen Rossi is third in terms of race pace, but he always takes the usual 3 tenths per lap also in terms of pace, from Pedrosa and Lorenzo.
No rider goes fast everywhere alone, not even Stoner or Lorenzo or Pedreosae Marquez, the ability of a rider is not just going fast, but also going fast by improving one's weak points and this is done on the track also by copying and learning from others strong drivers.
Rossi spent 2 years on a bike which, however much you want to reform it, is much less competitive than Honda and Yamaha. Dovizioso was on a more competitive bike and certainly learned to go better in qualifying and use the tires better.
Rossi has never been lightning fast in qualifying, he has always struggled a little more than others, and if he still wants to win he must improve his performances in qualifying a lot like the others have done, plus he must do the same in the race, I don't I think it's impossible, of course he has to change his approach, in the sense that now he's no longer number one and if he still wants to reach the highest levels he has to start studying his opponent again as he has always done in the past.
Rossi following in Mugello Crutc?!
To shave tenths??? But please!
I don't know what the Spaniards ate as children, but it was certainly stuff that digested quickly...
We can elect Marquez as a new phenomenon, he really surprised me, tomorrow in the race if he doesn't arrive, by dint of somersaults, from the braking section of the S.Donato to the Giogo pass, he will go on the podium!
However, there are many contenders for the podium tomorrow, shall we venture a prediction?
I'm being smart and I reserve two names for each position:
1 – Camomillo or Lorenzo
2 – Cabroncito or Crutchlow
3 – Let's stick together or Dovizioso
But objectively it is difficult to guess who can win or get on the podium; for my part, the hope is that they all remain intact and the best person wins, whoever he may be!!!
Titian
As we have seen, at the moment Rossi is also finishing tenths behind Bradl at Mugello, in fact in the end Bradl remained one tenth ahead of Rossi.
If Rossi wants to achieve good performances in Qualifying he must do the wagon, this is what emerged from the first GPs of the year.
In my opinion Rossi in wagon format behind Lorenzo or Pedrosa would be at least close to 2 tenths, doing extremely well he would arrive with the same time and if he risked everything in wagon format he either lays down or does better by one or 2 tenths, it is It's clear that he has to take many more risks than he already is.
Ah so when you are the phenomenon, the best of all and of all times, the one with the second on the wrist you have to follow another to make the time, now I understand!
Dementino did it often, I remember last year he always followed Pedro and not only that, it will go down in history when CASEY gave him the sign of the dog following its owner... then no comment.
anyway let's hope that makamoto continues to monitor because even if I don't believe it (hihihi) the results can be seen.
Ohhh I know it, but when he does it it's fine when others don't, according to someone's reasoning.
We're hoping for Nakamoto's guard but I don't have the same confidence, in the end when you're a cheater you always find new tricks, even if this year seems difficult.
the trick is his job, in fact even with the new helmet he placed himself in 4th position but in the standings he is behind Cal and therefore 5th
Anyway, an excellent illusionist.
Now I understand Valentino when he said: “….this is my track!” in the sense that he bought it!!! ahahahahahaha!!!! Dear Valentino as Bob Marley said "It's time to stop it!!!!"
GREAT DOVI!!!
The race will be different stuff, but at least there will be some small satisfaction!
Then I can't help but make a comment about Rossi.
Here it's not a question of recovering a tenth in each sector... the fact is that he is slower than the top riders, in riding and in setting up.
There is no tripe for cats.
He may well do well tomorrow, but at present this is what he can do, and he doesn't have a "Desmocancello" under his butt, but an exceptional bike.
It's right to remove a few stones, then for heaven's sake, I wish him to do the best possible.
poor ROSSI, if they go like this for the whole championship it's better for him to retire at the end of the year and go to the superbike, maybe he'll do something about it... I think this time he's really boiled, because it's impossible for everyone to improve and Not him, there are 2 answers: 1 either he's boiled or 2: or his team isn't able to give him a bike as fast as it used to be when on Sunday in the warm-up he managed to recover the gap...however it's strange that in the first free and among the first and then collapses without being able to improve,..or he is no longer capable of giving indications to find a better structure or his team is no longer among the best as it once was,,???!!
...guys, as has been said many times, the wheel turns for everyone...the geriatrician is on the world champion motorbike, therefore not just any motorbike...and yet he struggles...tomorrow, in any case, I expect the podium...he knows the track and not it's just that his pace is in terrible shape...the other two (in this case) go faster, that's all...it must be admitted that in recent years the competition has grown...Lorenzo and Pedro are truly two war machines, incredible to see them drive ...maybe tomorrow if he does well the nurse could even win but, the glories of the past are now over...with regards to the presumed move to SBK, I don't know how much it suits him...you run two races in a single day and you earn money significantly less... if I were the paramedic, I would retire at the end of these two years with Yamaha... maybe winning a little more... he definitely won't go hungry ah, ah, ah!!!
Dear Fat, I only relate to you who, in order to go against the grain, say sensible things! ha ha ha ha
thanks anyway.. it is appreciated that when people like
MUGELLO WHICH SHOULD SHOW A LITTLE MORE... "OR BETTER AT LEAST"
he says some bullshit..
(Mr H we forgive him every now and then he too has the right to let off steam.. he he)
there is someone like you who understands motorbikes. Even though I can't stand the geiatrician...
anyway HAVE YOU SEEN THE HELMET FOR MUGELLO????
BEAUTIFUL!!
a turtle!
COME ON, HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE HIM..?!
You shoot the shit, if you don't like me (and I'm happy about it) DON'T read me like I don't read yours, I saw my nik and I read it. therefore AIR, or rather KITCH!!!!!!
H95RR
If absurdly, and I repeat absurdly, the geriatrician wins tomorrow, what will you do?
Are you going to say that Nakamoto is to blame?
Fatman, when he's not being a dick at all costs, writes sensible posts, see above.
Vale has less for now, and a pinch of irony does nothing but good, but this story about the erasers still costs you...
Fatman is an asshole a priori, whether it's good or bad, he has coherence...
You are a flag, a petty coward who goes where the wind blows...
I still remember your posts where you were content to elevate stoners above reds, while recognizing the value of worth...
Lately, however, not even that, it must necessarily be a bad guy who loses as a bad boy, and if he were to win it would be because of the rubbers.
I wonder what kind of person you are in real life.
A petty one for sure, who would go back into hiding together in Mugello with Vale's first victory.
Bcs doesn't post anymore, it couldn't still respond, seriously, to the story of the erasers, now only yours and the delirious Marco alias Mugello alias other nicknames.
Even on that occasion you were a creep... You acted sorry for the fact that Bcs was also leaving, when Bcs is leaving also and above all for elements like you and Mugello-Marco.
Furthermore, I have asked you a thousand times for some pro-eraser arguments, in addition to the hallucinations of a sensation-scoop-seeking journalist, and you have never provided any.
Obviously.
Mike, what do I have to do?
Do you think an ascetic walk in the Himalayas would help me ignore the trolls? ^^
Aeneas
“You are a flag, a petty coward who goes where the wind blows…”
“I wonder what kind of person you are in real life.
A mean one for sure, who would go back into hiding together in Mugello with Vale's first victory."
Well well we're not talking about him but about someone else and he attacks you with terms like that, people think about who the real troll is, and I'll stop here because I still have more to say but then they ban me, with this thing full of shit £rd@ I don't want to have anything to do with it anymore.
Valentino's boyfriend who gets offended if you talk badly about his little love, BUT GO TO SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
Fatman is right about this thing.
ouch….^^
Aeneas
ANGER is an ugly beast, they don't expose their ideas but attack those who have them, poor things.
but what are you doing H954 reply to a troll-uccio?
Marco… ANGER :D
I HAVE ANGER!!!! hehehe :D
By maccio capatonda hihihi ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpXjVzTdQQ4
Aeneas
…Pedrosa favorite for the victory, Por Fuera will sell his life dearly and if the temperatures drop…Marquez unpredictable…he can fall back or comfortably make the podium…Rossi on the maximum podium in third position.
Dovi is perhaps the best test rider in MotoGP, he is serious and also a great handler... Ducati couldn't have made a better choice in my opinion... and for the moment he seems much better than Rossi but also than the latest Nicky...Cal una confirmation and Bradl is a promising young man who however has to get moving and get on the podium….
Anyway, Rossi is still the usual media clown... he said that by shaving a tenth he would have placed himself among the first... that's not true... he would have recovered just one position... furthermore it's his problem if he can't catch up with the fastest...
I repeat it for the umpteenth time... the 10th title is utopian, at most he can win a couple of races in favorable conditions (like one of Dani, Jorge and Marc out..., for the rest he will have to fight on every track for the podiums In qualifying he was almost embarrassingly slow anyway...
Ducati was right to take Dovizioso, it's Dovi who was wrong to go to Ducati :)
Poor Dovizioso will do worse than Rossi, because he will never reach the podium even in particular conditions this year.
Dovizioso on the unofficial Yamaha would now have already achieved better results than Cruchlow as he did last year, making many fewer mistakes in the race and fewer crashes and would certainly have aimed at least fourth place if not a few podiums.
At the end of 2013 Crutchlow will do worse than Rossi and would have done even worse than Dovi if he had remained in Yamaha.
With Dovizioso in Yamaha, Rossi would also have a lot more pressure on him, whereas with Cal, the task is simpler for him too, given that Crutchlow is a good rider but he is a step lower than Dovi and clearly also than Rossi.
…it's too early to pass judgment…wait confident…
...I agree with Fatman..it's a bit early for the sentences, to do worse than Rossi Dovizioso would have to rank higher than 7th place in the general classification...Rossi came 7th in 2011 and 6th in 2012...and anyway the fact is that Andrea seems much more in tune with the Ducati than Rossi... it seems to me that he rides it better and makes fewer mistakes...
It depends on whom? Crutchlow or Dovizioso?
Crutchlow has less experience in Moto GP than Dovizioso and perhaps has a little less coolness and talent. I don't know if he will reach the level of Dovi who has already been on an official Honda.
I don't think it's too early to pass judgment on Dovi in Ducati, because the bike is that of the last 3 years or perhaps even the last 4, in the sense that only Stoner worked miracles on the Ducati.
It's not that I think Dovi is doing worse than Rossi a priori, but let's be clear, in Honda the situation is a bit worse for Honda and improved for Yamaha in terms of riders, I mean, in the sense that Marquez, as surprising as he is, is not Stoner , and Stoner would certainly have done better than Marquez and probably would have shown how superior Honda is in 2011.
So for Dovizioso, compared to when Rossi was in Ducati, there are fewer problems with the competitiveness of the Honda riders, who however with a super bike make it very difficult for Dovi to do better than them.
Ducati's situation has instead worsened compared to the official Yamahas, because let's face it, Dovi and Rossi are certainly better than the Spies of last season and this one, so now having Rossi in the official Yamaha complicates things for a Ducati rider in putting himself in front also to the official Yamahas.
Then there's Crutchlow who is the same Crutchlow as always and has a bike that rides better than the Ducati, and even Bradl if he doesn't knock himself out has a more competitive bike.
I believe that Pedrosa and Marquez and Lorenzo and Rossi will occupy the top 4 positions in the standings at the end of the season, injuries permitting. Then Crutchlow arrives and then if he feels like it, Dovizioso arrives, otherwise Bradl and then Dovi.
The only advantage that Dovizioso has over Rossi is that the other Tech III Yamaha is ridden by Smith and this perhaps balances out a bit what there was last year with Spies in Yamaha, in the sense that the Yamaha riders really competitive last year there were 3 and this year there are 3.
PS. however, by worse than Rossi I didn't mean worse in the general classification, or with fewer points or more points, I meant that he will have zero victories, zero podiums and I don't even know if he will get other fourth places.
...I said that I expect the podium and I confirm...in any case, everyone expects victory from the reds on this track, there's no point in denying it...even second place would be a defeat...a bit like Casey in Australia...the much-desired Yamaha doesn't it's that it has brought stratospheric results, at least until now...I would like to remember what the tavulliaboys wrote at the beginning of the year..."Jorge will notice...Dani is an eternal second...if he eats them all etc"....now I'm a little calmer, many disappeared from the forum for months and returned only when there was some hope of seeing him as a protagonist... in a word: Average Italians... when they complain about a fault I am satisfied above all for them, certainly not for the pilot who in any case risks his life at 340 per hour...I hope to make myself laugh tomorrow...I will be a spectator at a crucial point of the track, den of tavulliaboys...I want to hear the various comments...especially (and I'm sorry to say it) from the girls ah, ah, ah!! !
This trip (yet another I imagine) to Mugello did you good... ;)
They are two worthy posts in one news story…. :D
PS
To avoid any misunderstanding, you still piss me off... hehehe ^^
Aeneas
...I know, it's mutual...the difference between you and me is that I don't get angry if they write things I don't like...and, what's more important, I'm from the NORTH...you know that when the allies landed in Did Sicily already want to use bacteriological bombs then? Imagine when they passed through Puglia...
I don't get angry if someone says that Rossi is doing less than expected... it's obvious and it's right that we talk about it.
But I can't stand mean people, and I'll end here. :)
hehehe I would have many things to say about north and south... for example that when Italy was unified you bought the dindini of the rich south to put your ramshackle situation back on its feet... giving birth to the southern question... and so on. :)
Have you ever been to Puglia...??
Fearsome wine, inimitable oil, unique tomatoes and a coast (especially the Ionian side) that will leave you speechless... :)
Not to mention that the prices are much more affordable than where you are...
And anyone who has been there can only confirm. ;)
Aeneas
...well done...hold on to your oil and don't travel above the parallel of Rome...and then you only think about eating...in my opinion you're fat as a pig...I've never seen a fit southerner...
great friend Fat I agree with you..
I thought he would eat them all right away..
but now I have to think again...
I hope he gets back to the top.
and if not...
You can't win forever...
but for me it always remains the greatest.
H is not with you eh..
Mugello
I'd like to talk to you, and if you notice with fatman testoner h bilbo etc I can do it and I'll do it willingly.. the problem is that you seem to have a personal war with Rossi's person and you seem to be looking for a battle on the forum.
Enea, after years of having the finger on the finger, for some it is right that they now take it off a little... but the smell still remains, don't worry.
ah em.. I suggest that you also keep the tube of pottery, just in case..