MotoGP Jerez: Valentino Rossi, “It was a very difficult weekend”
Rossi also spoke about Lorenzo's podium: "I've always said that without a doubt he is one of the strongest"
Gp Jerez MotoGP Rossi Yamaha – Valentino Rossi did not go beyond tenth place in the Spanish Grand Prix held in Jerez de la Frontera. The Yamaha rider from Pesaro suffered problems with both the front and rear of his M1 and was never among the protagonists. The only positive news for him is that he maintained the top of the rankings. The word is up to him.
“It was a very difficult weekend, we always suffered, we didn't have good traction coming out of the corners. After the warm up we made some changes, especially thinking about the tyres, we struggled to use the hard tire and we were at the limit with the medium. Unfortunately it didn't work, the bike was difficult to ride in the race and I also had trouble on the front. In the final laps the rear tire also started to vibrate and I just had to think about getting to the finish line. We didn't expect a weekend like this, now we'll have to understand and work well in the tests tomorrow."
Despite the "bad" day, you are still first in the rankings.
“This is a very positive thing, after a race like this I'm still ahead. Vinales also gained a few points from me, while the ones who gained a lot were the two Hondas that dominated. The worrying thing is that Honda was very strong and instead we were in difficulty. Things can change from one day to the next and we hope to be fast already in Le Mans.”
Tomorrow, as you said, there will be a day of testing, what do you expect?
“First of all, after a result like this, we return to the track more motivated, then there are new things to try, it will be an important test. Tomorrow we will try to be faster.”
Lorenzo made his first podium with Ducati, can he become an opponent?
“I have always said that Lorenzo is undoubtedly one of the strongest. This weekend he was always in front, he was fast on a track where in theory the Ducati should have had more problems. This teaches us that it is really difficult to get the predictions right.”
How important will the next two races, France and Italy, be?
“They will be two very important races, but tomorrow's tests will be even more important. We have already been to Le Mans, we went fast, we hope to be more competitive.”
Did Pedrosa win today, another opponent for the title?
“This year Pedrosa is very strong and I have put him among those who will compete for the title. He has shown that he has a good feeling with this bike, he came from a podium and here he won, on a track where he always goes very fast."
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a bad race can happen to one rider or the other, but there is something wrong with both bikes, especially after the good performances in the 3 races before...
True, but does Zarko have last year's bike? Why was he going faster?
JUST THAT WHEN THE WRONG RACE HAPPENS TO OTHERS IMMEDIATELY TO RIDE AND GIVE YOU ASSHOLE, HAVE A NICE TABLE THAT TODAY YOU HAVE A LOT OF STUFF TO EAT, ENJOY YOURSELF
It seems to me that the ones who are laughing are you and towards only one driver.
A race truly to forget for Valentino, and that's all I'll say...
Skarto, you keep licking your chops, you've been eating shit since you were born!
It's not a bad day and we're not talking about a bike that has chronic problems like Ducati, which despite 3rd place finished 15 seconds behind...
we are talking about a bike that has always fought for victory, and today it took 24 and 38 seconds from the first without even trying to fight, because if they did they would fall
you forgot the skarto dessert, go eat it until it smokes….
Don't worry Cujo...Skarto will already be all in the septic tank...A "full fecal immersion" hahahahhahahahahahha
Sorry for the interruption between your insults... But last year Jorge had the same problem with the Yamaha and you called him useless while the great Vale had won with the "same bike"?! Qnd this year the useless thing is the Yamaha I imagine or the tyre?! By the way, if you also read serious editorials that really talk about motorbikes, Vale explained that he risked a risky set-up because he was too slow in the warm up and unfortunately it didn't work for him ;) but you can continue with the hypocrisy... No problem :)
you can continue reading other serious sites, but even in the more (according to you) sc@22oni ones, you can see that Lorenzo has had spinning problems like everyone else had them last year (but you always fail to mention these things) , and in any case he had a gap of a couple of seconds from Rossi if I remember correctly. So you can conclude, again last year that despite the difficulties, Yamaha finished 1st and 2nd…..
Now tell me, despite Rossi's risky set and Vinales' warm up, how many seconds did they get from the first compared to the previous three races...
by the way, for writing these minki@te you apologize, and then you complain if people insult you
Poor Grandpa Rossi..he finally won the tenth..place ahahahahahah
They are looking for BESTLAP to those who have seen it, they fear suicide ahahqhahahhahahahaahhahahahahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahhaahahahahahahahhaahhaahah
Damn!! They gave him the wrong rubber, Pedrosa had his one. ;))))
Here I am SKARTO, don't worry, you're the ones who disappear when things go wrong. It's clear that yesterday's race was anomalous, there's no way that Rossi reached the end more than 40 seconds behind himself from last year, just as it is not normal for Maverick to lap 1,39 in the WU and then never manage to repeat himself in the race and take 24 seconds, we are talking about the dominator of all the tests and first 2 races, it is not even normal for the 1 M2016s to go better than the 2017s.. If I were you dear "usual IDI0TIs" I would wait to indulge in easy triumphalisms, you risk taking another nice cold shower at the next race, I won't say figure of the KA220 because you are used to those.. I'm happy x Jorge , it is an important result and will give him confidence, something he will need because the problems of the Ducati have not disappeared like magic, Jorge took 15 seconds from Dovi 23... Let's say that the official M1s were missing otherwise the one from 99 it would have been a fifth place without taking anything away from Jorge's good race...
No one repeated the WU times, the track was much faster in the morning. The fact is that Vinales in his overall slowness was at least constant and lapped with the pace of the GP17s around him, Rossi was completely wrecked and with another lap he probably would have been jumped by another couple of riders. I believe that the setting also had a big impact, he took a risk because during the weekend he proved that he was not competitive. The 2017 Yamahas certainly suffered in these conditions but their performances were completely different.
Nobody repeated the WU times but Pedro in the WU did 1,39,8 and in the race he hammered out times between 1,40,2 and 1,40,8 (keeping a certain margin to use when Marc approached) while Maverick in the WU he did 1,39,4 and in the race immediately on the second lap he did 1,41,2 then 1,40,7 on the third and after that always above 1,41 it's not normal it almost seems like he did the WU with the M1 and the race with Dovi's Ducati... We have never seen Maverick take 24 seconds at the finish line before, it is clear that the 2 official M1s had a problem with the tires and the temperature, Rossi's problem was more serious because he also completely got the bike setup wrong, this is what the times say….
Thus proclaimed the Magnificent Rector!
Eheh.. thanks for the title…
Cujo learns to read ;)
And Skarto, yes you are right, it wasn't normal but if you read the entire interviews with Vale and Maverick you see two very different sides of the story... In fact, even Maverick said that Michelin "forbade" him from making comments on the tire for the race , while Vale admitted that he risked a risky setting because he was too slow in warmup... There is nothing to celebrate or rejoice at the end of the year or the last race, as you well know ;) but without taking anything away from a great weekend of Jorge who ran the Ducati on a track like this, which is nice considering the Dorna rip-off with the winglets...
Learn to read...
If you read carefully, I never talked about tires in yesterday's race, especially if you listened to the interviews starting on Friday, both drivers agreed that they had no grip on the left-hand corners. And in my opinion if everything was fine on the right, perhaps the problem is elsewhere.
Compared to Vinales, Rossi changed the WUP setting and then in the race he didn't have the benefits, what can I say, he tried, Rossi's times in the morning were around 1.40 and ½
Let's forget about Rossi, what can you tell me about his teammate, the one who dominated everything up until Argentina, reached 25 seconds, what is it?? suddenly the alien became alienated??.
I'm not saying that Lorenzo had a bad race, on the contrary.... but you have to agree that apart from Cal's crash, in normal situations his position would have been 5th or 6th…..
However setting or no setting there were some problems on the official Yamahas, Vinales at 24 seconds on a circuit favorable to their bike does not exist.
I congratulate Lorenzo even if he arrived at 15 seconds, at least he was the first of the Ducatis.
exactly, and it's not even necessarily linked exclusively to the tyres, even if they played an important role. I don't think we'll ever know exactly what the problem was, but Yamaha and Michelin know it for sure
Yes but the strange thing is what happened especially to Vinales, he dominated all the winter tests with this bike, the first three races, in total it seems to me on 6 different circuits and all of a sudden the crisis, boooo!!!
Well, the nickname of the Monegasque wig is back too! The one who “knows everything”. Clown, worry about the terrible figures your failed idol continues to make, which is better!
Hey supermaria they haven't removed you from this site yet ;)
Yes Cujo, in normal situations that don't seem to exist now, I think Jorge would have been 5/6 as he also said... But last year Jorge had commented on the problem of the tire slipping in high temperatures and everyone laughed at him, when it seems to me that you don't have the same treatment for Rossi, right?! And yes, I believe that Vale did well and risked it because as he said otherwise I would have had 7/8 times and I appreciate the fact that he took the risk even if it went badly for him... Maverick on the other hand actually complained about a "defect" in the Michelin the same as Argentina in his opinion, which ruined him, but it seems he can't comment on it which doesn't seem right to me.. But in the end each race seems like it will be standalone this year due to too many variations (and Michelin is not yet up to the task of this championship in my opinion), but I'll leave the usual factions to insult each other which is better than trying to reason with certain people...sorry for the interruption, I'm going back to the serious sites ;)
you see that you always remember what you think…..
last year, the others had the problem that Lorenzo had too... to a specific question without saying the problem that number 99 was experiencing, both Marquez and Rossi said that the rear was slipping or spinning on the rim.
Understood???
Eheh.. certainly not you…
Ah, ah, ah, professor, what are you doing to me, they say "certainly not you.." not you.
Look, you disappoint me with these elementary school mistakes, I wouldn't want them to take away your teaching position!
him alone with the drawings, otherwise it's useless...
Marquez and Dovizioso's statements make it clear what has changed from one year to the next.
Last year, according to Dovizioso, there was little grip and the old Yamaha was fine in those conditions, this year's tires guaranteed much more grip.
Marquez, on the other hand, spoke of the front being too soft, even the Hard was too soft.
In these conditions Pedrosa and also Lorenzo with their guidance adapt better. They don't push too hard when braking like Rossi and Marquez.
A soft front tire should be driven by letting it slide and without ever putting it into crisis by overheating it. It certainly didn't allow for great stability when braking.
The same goes for the rear. Pedrosa managed to finish the Medium mix very well despite a very tight race with his teammate who had a Dura on the rear.
Lorenzo is surprised by the fact that with a Media on the rear he managed to get to the end of the race better than Zarco who also had a Media and had started better and had the bike that had won last year.
It should be noted that Rossi, in winning the grand prix last year, went only 2 seconds slower than Pedrosa this year.
While the air and asphalt temperatures were very similar.
Michelin has changed the tires quite a bit this year.
These favored the riding of Pedrosa and Lorenzo more, Marquez did well as did Dovizioso, a little less than Vinales.
Last year the tires favored the driving of Rossi who won, this year that of Pedrosa.
In the end it's like this for every GP, the rider who best adapts to the casings and compounds of the tires wins.
Also because no Yamaha has done well here this year.
Otherwise Zarco, with the old bike he would have had to match Rossi's time and finish second, 2 seconds behind Pedrosa.
Leaving aside the cheering for a moment, it is clear that the Michelins are distorting a championship, what in the morning seems to be the best bike in the championship and the rider is a phenomenon in the afternoon can become a gate driven by a donkey and the next day do the lap faster than Warm up.
This is not good, it's Moto GP, these things can't happen with tires...
But look, for once I agree with you.. Furthermore, it also seems that Michelin has difficulty maintaining constant production quality, it can happen that the same tire that worked well in the morning has completely different performance in the afternoon.. In my opinion Michelin should stop obsessing about lowering lap times compared to the Bridgestones and should instead focus on production consistency..
Great race from Lorenzo, it really seems like he's going in the right direction, he improves with each race and above all, it must be considered that this track has never been very "friendly" to Ducati. Of course Dovizioso also set times very close to those of Lorenzo, he lacked consistency.
I feel that many, if not all, blame Michelin and, although I also agree on this aspect, I wonder why in the previous GPs, where things were going well for Yamaha, practically no one mentioned it.
Unfortunately, the tires are distorting the championship, both for those who win and for those who finish behind and now, with today's tests, they want to return to the 2016 tires and if the riders are not of the same opinion, they will raise the issue again in the Barcelona tests.
But then tell me you want to go back to last year's tires, dammit. I don't know what the hell Michelin is heading towards. A driver doesn't have time to understand its strengths and weaknesses, before he immediately changes.
In interviews this year, Dovizioso has left aside that humility that I liked so much, showing a side that was unknown to me, but which certainly didn't bring him luck.
Lorenzo, at least in words, understood that it was best not to go too far, he performed badly, but he continued to work hard and today the first positive result arrived (not at -15 sec., but -10, max -11 sec It matters nothing, but in the end Pedrosa continued to pull hard with Marc attached, while Lorenzo did the last laps by walking around).
I also want to underline that Lorenzo "KISSED" the Ducati in parc fermé and I mention it in response to all those who underlined the ungentlemanly gesture towards the bike from a few GPs ago.
The Yamahas both did something wrong and it doesn't seem so strange to me that they both "failed" the race. Not only the tyres, but also the setting and this time, the last second correction was not fruitful for Vale. I believe that it wasn't just down to the tires for 2 main reasons: 1) Zarco, with the 2016 bike, went fast, very fast and if that gives me a lot, Vinales (but also Vale), under equal conditions would have been a little more fast. 2) Vale ruined the hard rear tyre, a sign that he had a clearly wrong setting for these conditions.
I would be curious to verify this hypothesis of mine: Vale has always been slower than Vinales, much slower in practice, only to then get closer and not a little in race performance with the usual last minute changes. I have the clear impression that the changes made by Vale have always been aimed at bringing his bike closer (in setting) to that of his teammate and yesterday, since Vinales' setting didn't work, Vale's setting couldn't have worked either. What's worse is that the last second changes altered Vale's bike, so much so that they even ruined the hard tire on the rear, while Zarco, Lorenzo and even Dovizioso arrived at the end with a medium on the rear, medium then , mounted on Ducatis, not just on Yamahas. But Vale, didn't he always say that in practice he worked according to the race? If this is the result of work aimed at performance in the race...
Okay, but we are only Vale's detractors, if we write these things, we only do it to denigrate, not because we really mean it, we find all the ways to attack him (even if it would be enough to read the interviews given by the pilot himself impartially) , not that the things we write can even come close to the truth, absolutely impossible. We should only praise him and if that's not the case, we don't understand a thing.
I'm sorry about Iannone's umpteenth fall. He's generous, but he often exceeds and wants to stay in positions that aren't his job, especially on a Suzuki. Always driving at the limit is the stuff of champions, an excellent driver like him, he still doesn't have the qualities to maintain that pace at every lap for the entire race and I'm very sorry about that.
Excellent Pedrosa, wonderful race from the champion who seemed destined to be, but who then never was for the entire duration of a world championship. Marquez also had a great race, the only one who could stay with Pedrosa today, not only for the bike (any other rider on that bike would not have come so close to Pedrosa), but for his exceptional riding skills.
A note for Aprilia and for Alex Espargaro, always able to give the "A" on the flying lap, but then not able to maintain competitiveness for the entire race. Unlike Iannone, it must be recognized that he accepts his limits and takes the bike to the finish line. I would like to see an Aprilia that is even a little more competitive than it is today.
Great Ducati
Great Lorenzo
Great Dovizioso
You said at least 2 stupid things.
Zarco was noticeably slower with the 2016 bike.
Rossi had taken at least 15 seconds less than Zarco in 2016 and the temperature was similar. Furthermore, according to Dovizioso, the 2016 tires had less grip than this year's.
Furthermore, Rossi had a medium rear, not a hard one.
The Yamaha riders clearly stated that for them the hard choice on the rear was inconvenient and did not pay off, while with the medium rear they were at the limit of wear.
Furthermore, from the statements of Yamaha or Michelin, Rossi's rear was ruined, but the biggest problem of vibrations in the last laps was probably caused by the slipping of the tire on the rim which unbalanced the wheel, which is felt at high speeds, and in fact Rossi had complained about the strong vibrations on the straight.
Look, I was referring to this race when talking about Zarco. Where did you read that I made the comparison with last year?
I'm not going to read it, because I know it's going to be the usual pippo about the Ducati, and it just so happens that you came to write it here... why?? maybe because no one cares about them….
That's what you have to do, jump me.