MotoGP: Sepang Test, Andrea Dovizioso "It's a complicated situation, we will have to suffer"
For the Forlì native who was close to the Yamaha Factory last year, there is an uphill future
Andrea Dovizioso, like all the other Ducatisti, leaves with "broken" bones from the Sepang tests. The man from Forlì who last year was very close to having the Yamaha Factory (later stolen from him by Valentino Rossi) is experiencing the Ducati reality first hand. A bike that is far from the top and on which there is a lot to work on. Closing the tests more than two seconds from the top shouldn't please anyone, especially those who had earned a Factory Yamaha on the field. The word is up to him.
“There's no real need to take stock, we knew we'd get here and have to work as much as possible to give a lot of feedback to the engineers, and in fact we gave a lot of it! We were aware starting from this situation, so we are not that surprised. There is a lot to work on, and unfortunately the downside is that it takes time and in MotoGP there is never much of it. I hope that at Sepang 2 we will be able to try some new solutions, even if there probably won't be enough time to do anything really important. It's a complicated situation: we will have to suffer in the first part of the championship but we are here to work hard.”
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But wasn't this the one who said in post-season testing that the bike wasn't as bad as he expected?
But yes it's him!
But guys, what could we expect? The bike has remained unchanged for practically half of last season, while the others have improved.
There is a total change of management underway, of means and men.
I really hope this is the starting line.
If we then consider that these tests were used to understand what had been done up until last year...
The recipe might be simple enough, but what ingredients? I really hope they find them quickly!
I hope that all this damn data collected serves to sow seeds and not to occupy gigabytes of memory...
…the Germans don't work like us Italians…they want to understand and then intervene…it will take time but not as much as we have seen up to now…as long as they want to do things seriously…I don't think Audi wants to disgrace itself…and then you want to put win without phenomena in the saddle? So yes...we could say "what a great move"...history goes in cycles, the geriatrician didn't succeed, someone else will!!!
@Fatman
I share.
Furthermore, now there is not a huge imbalance in the garage, so I hope that a potential balance will lead to a rapid evolution based on the sharing of ideas between drivers and the manufacturer.
What could Dovi have said about the bike, considering that before Sepang he had done 4 laps on it.
The bike (and I say this as a Ducati fan) is rubbish, but it became so because the "guy in yellow" and his comrade Burgess didn't understand a thing about how they should have worked.
Everything that was done by the "miracle couple" on the Ducati served to worsen performance, just note the gap from the leaders.
Let's put our hearts at rest, everything that was produced on the indication of VB and that was tested again in Sepang, brought the Red's performance back to an all-time low.
fatman,
the Tugnini (as we call the Germans in my area), with the very guy who took over the racing department, didn't make a good impression. SBK's BMW had considerable budgets at its disposal, but to understand something, they had to "copy" from the Italian branch, even, from this year, the "branch" became a "factory".
I was very happy with the investment, but when I learned who their top man was, I began to have doubts. These tests were very important, but He wasn't there.
It's not making a good impression on me and if they don't have a backup plan ready, not only will 2013 be very tough, but... I hope I'm totally wrong.
@ligera
…without Macho we won't be here talking about BMW and what Gobemeier did…if you have a strong rider you win, the rest is chatter…sure, the bike has to work but in the end you always have to satisfy the rider…BMW was almost OK with Corser too...it always takes time, I've seen very few miracles...Aprilia 2T 90s above all...
Reading Dovizioso's words I feel like I'm feeling Rossi's feelings, it will be tough, already from mid-season...
Then… the next season… the next half season….
Ok I'm going back to a satellite team, in fact if Rossi retires I'll try to take his official bike.
Just throw everything away and redo the engine and chassis.
This bike is simply ridiculous compared to the others, even slower than the SBKs as we have already seen, what do you want him to do Ambitious, someone who didn't even win with the HRC...
Emmammamia!! Yay with the sentence!
Dear Dovizioso, you have decided to marry the god of money instead of the passion for motorbikes and racing, now settle for traveling if all goes well in mid-table and enjoy all the money that Ducati or Audi gives you!
Dovizioso didn't choose the god of money at all.. he deserved the Yamaha Factory with the results in 2012, then Rossi came along and "took it away from him"..
At that point only Ducati remained among the official motorcycles…….
Really for the sake of truth you should say that he had already earned himself an Official HRC Honda on which he did NOT cause any mischief!
Objectivity, this unknown….
PS
But then I would be really curious to know, how many of you were ever up to being an MGP Team Manager, in the choice between Rossi and Pretenzioso they would choose the latter
(obviously the well-known Trolls are asked to refrain from answering, thank you: we already know their answer!)
;)
Who is Pretentious? New kid in motorcycle racing?
For the love of truth, it's not even like that (or rather, everything we are writing doesn't have much to do with the "truth", but only with sensations and feelings as fans).
In HRC there were 3 riders, Stoner Pedrosa and Dovizioso who arrived in HRC only because he had a pre-contract with Honda and in 250 he remained on the Giappy bike, only for the promise of joining the Factory MotoGP team (remember that Honda interrupted the development of the 250 in Dovi's time, right?).
With those 2 riders in front, Vale would also have suffered. Stoner was in front of him, Pedrosa is Repsol's coachman.
Dovi, given Honda's treatment, had no choice but to leave.
In Yamaha, from what had been estimated and given the results, he should have taken Spies' place alongside Lorenzo, but Vale took the place and not on merit, but through the "intercession" of Ezpeleta and this is it was a shameful move, the organizer must not intervene in this type of issue and if it hadn't been for Him, Yamaha wouldn't even think about it (try asking Jarvis or Lorenzo).
Yay with sentence n°2!! But when you say these things do you also fire a box of raudi to give emphasis??!!!
cmd
It seems that they don't post pages where there are various acronyms for cmd: I don't know the meaning and was looking for suggestions.
cmd??
Look you can call him Ambitious, Pretentious, Snarky, but perhaps the best is ENVIOUS, hahaha
this motorbike is the daughter of the worst sporting marriage of the millennium, only the stickers have changed…..still with the history of the Germans?????at the most if it were necessary they will make components on request!!and stop!!!!with a sensible method of working should see the results over a couple of seasons....
nice to dream, but one day is there hope that you will wake up??
Maccaxxo!
This bike in 11 (ELEVEN) seasons
IT NEVER, EVER, GONE!!!!!!
Except for a miserable 2007 thanks to astral conjunctions and a couple of other details….
Stop with the “wrong marriage”!
the only wrong marriage here is that of those who have generated a group of trolls of historic importance!
Don't worry, we Ducatisti have a masochism inside that not even we know how!!
(revisit of an old advertisement)
see w-the.. you answer yourself. you say it's the usual 4 trolls making jokes... tell me who made jokes here. read it again and you will understand that you are the same as all of us!!!
the conjunction has only one name and it is called Casey Stoner…
Dovizioso, it must be admitted that he is only a distant relative of those 4 in front... but it must be said that he has testing skills that none of them possess. and I think nothing can be said about this...
Damn, with this story of Dovizioso as a super test rider, he's as good as the others as a test rider, it's just that in Ducati they have to understand that they have to listen to the riders and tailor the bike to the rider as Honda did for example with Pedrosa PUNTO.
Of course, it took them a thousand thousand years and then he won, first Hayden and then Stoner. Az. what an example.
Honda has truly learned its lesson after a thousand years, this is true, but now that they have understood it, they have been making a great bike for 2 seasons.
Since mid-2012, after Stoner said Ciao to him, they have developed the bike on Pedrosa.
After 10 years they made Harakiri of their presumption that the car matters more than the driver and they understood that car and driver must be one and look at the results.
Yamaha did not have this presumption and immediately understood that if they wanted to win they had to give the rider what maximized his strong points and minimized his weak ones and the result is that from 2004 to 2012 they won 6 Moto GP world championships.
Few stories, if you want to win you need great riders and great bikes and these 2 must work as one, this is a small part of the recipe for winning.
As long as Ducati doesn't do this job and continues to make a bike without the rider, they won't get far.
…in my opinion Jorge is much more sensitive than Andrea…unfortunately Ducati had luck with Casey, taken as a fallback and bad luck with all the other riders…I would only save Loris…the wheel turns…it will turn well again…
Loris, who built that bike and achieved honorable results, until Ducati left him stranded.
Maybe if he had remained as second guide the bike would still go.
With Stoner, lots of hair and throttle, the bike was fine as it was, without the need for development.
Unfortunately, however, only for him and all the others in turn made a fool of themselves.
It would be a good idea to give it a good wash and start again from scratch.
I'm black pissed off!
Very pissed off!!
I know you don't care, but I have to vent, dammit!!!!
You enervated the Maroni every single day as long as Rossi was in Ducati, blaming him entirely for the troubles of this damn bike, a runaway mule, as I myself defined it.
We have endured the worst atrocities on your part (united trolls of Italy), sometimes even laughing and joking about each other, God only knows why.
Now Rossi, if you haven't noticed, HE'S NO MORE!!!
ENNE-O-ENNE-CI-E'-Pi-I-u'!
Look ahead dammit!!! Look ahead!
You cheered the announcement of the new Dukan riders, shit again!
Enjoy them, look forward!!
Don't crush our zebedees anymore with Rossi who broke your motorbike, little stupid children...
Echecchezz!
Don't worry W_il_Sic, it's all over, it was just a bad dream...
Here's Teddy, back to ninin... (with little hand on his forehead).
Come on, I'm joking, but take it more calmly, do you think I don't know how much shit was tipped onto the Ducati?
But I've never had hysterics, come on!!
To get an idea, imagine the Sella Pass with the turbines in action, but instead of snow... shit! And a DD16 moves in parallel!!
AH AH AH AH!!!!
You're right, sorry, but I wrote it. I wanted to indulge in a hysterical outburst.
It's already a crazy time... the work doesn't move, the customers pretend to forget to pay and in the end they don't really pay, everything goes to hell...
one always, ALWAYS, enters here with the intention of distracting oneself a bit, having a bit of fun and instead always finds the same old trite and trite 4 nonsense things.
Anyway, you're right, I apologize...
Look, I too, like everyone else, have my obsessions from which every now and then endless discussions emerge (e.g. most recently with Enea :-) ), and perhaps without rhyme or reason.
It costs me little or nothing to say it.
I replied to you in jest, thinking about the general c@zzeggi°; I understand the difficulty of the moment from what you say, because I know what it means, because it is like this for many and everywhere, and since work is half of our life and must be at least minimally satisfying, especially if done with seriousness and passion, I hope for you that things settle down and resume normal course.
In this case, in total sincerity, I gladly offer you a handshake and a pat on the shoulder for encouragement!!
;-)
I reciprocate with great pleasure!
And thanks…
@ligera
although we are not friends and, fortunately, we never will be,
I still want to give you some sincere advice as a friend:
change dealer, because what you have now gives you junk that is ruining you.
Then do as you please….
;-)
XW the Sic. (don't you think it's in bad taste by now?)
Now you have to offend because the truth is told?
He arrived at Ducati with boastful proclamations, but he left badly beaten (he wasn't even able to fix the front and to make the engine smoother he made the shaft heavier, adopting the same system he adopted with the Yamaha years ago, just as they worked for 2 years, always doing what worked in Yamaha, unfortunately Ducati is completely different from Yamaha and what is good for the Giappy house is not good for the Red, but try and now you want us to believe that he has no responsibility? That in these 2 years of bullshit, he comes out clean and tidy just because he got half a second on the world champion motorbike?
It wasn't you who, a few posts ago, wrote: "for the love of truth..."
Consistency is not one-way.
But what test driver? Someone who practically said that he deserved the official Yamaha... But if he couldn't win even with the HRC...
BMW will help Ducati to become a competitive bike again (objectively it takes some time)... then, in any case, given the innate characteristics of the desmodromic, a stellar rider will be needed to make it a winner: ergo, with the return of Stoner – the only stellar rider of the years 2006-2012 – Ducati will win again…….indeed, perhaps even with Marquez in 3-4 years!
Long live MotoGP!!
…strange, they ticked you off…
fable art.
I hope you're not a DUCATI fan, because you made a mistake as big as a house.
BMW HELP DUCATI? But did you smoke like Stonami?
BMW is a direct competitor of DUCATI, have you ever seen the SBK???
AUDI ACQUIRED DUCATI PRECISELY TO COMPETE WITH THE BMW GROUP!
...even if you don't scream it's still ok...it's clear he meant Audi, he was just wrong...forgive him, not everyone is as good and prepared as you...
Yes, he was wrong... he pasted this message under 2 or 3 articles.
It happens that you make mistakes, but at least reread and correct yourself, he didn't write a papyrus, he put 4 lines there before copying and pasting for it to be reread!
Rossi is going strong because he rides the bike developed by Lorenzo
Dovi goes slowly because he uses the motorbike developed by Rossi and Geremia...
7 minutes I'll fix the motorbike...
:-)))))))))))))))
let's stick together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
…80 seconds, be precise…
There's no problem, now Ducati has a rider who deserved the factory Yamaha, and they sent the geriatrician away, we'll see big challenges with the Crts.
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Ducati didn't give away Rossi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he is the one who ran away from shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
…ah, ah, ah…it's true, good boy…he's become "red" with shame ah, ah, ah…be careful not to make W the Sic suffer when you write these posts, otherwise you'll see how he blurts out again ah, ah , ah!!!
Let's hope that Ducati are working on something new...
Maybe I'm the only one who believes this, but I really don't like the new DucAudi management at all.... See BMW.
Hayden, who I don't consider an idiot*, clearly said that we NEED something BIG... Between the lines we can understand that we don't need a "simple" frame, or a swingarm or who knows what... We need something NEW! (maybe a new project)…
There are rumors that Ducati is working on a new bike (so the Vera Gp13, but it's not yet clear when this will hit the track...)
I hope for the good of the championship that Ducati finds the right path.
(Ducati article and I talk about Ducati… Unlike others…)
bcs
I completely agree
Let's talk about bikes that are better
Hello everyone... I would like to make a small comment. Do you remember when Dovi made some provocative statements about Rossi?! They asked him if he could be the possible 2012 MotoGP champion, he replied but you're joking, let alone now he isn't able to win even on a Japanese bike... He too is guilty of presumption every now and then :)
Oh and lastly I would like to say that Stoner is a very strong rider and he proved it, but in 2007 the Ducati was different like the less advanced Japanese ones, furthermore Ducati had the bridgestone factor which could help... Let's not forget that he had some good races on the Ducati Loris too.. I greet you night, I would say that we shouldn't criticize the riders so ferociously, and as Italians we should have a special eye on Valentino Rossi... A source of pride for our country, because his talent is unquestionable!