MotoGP: Sepang Test, Nicky Hayden “Obviously we can't be satisfied”
The American calls for a technical breakthrough that will allow the situation to be "straightened".
Nicky Hayden as well as the entire Ducati Team leaves Sepang with a lot of shadows and little light. At the moment the Desmosedici GP13 is light years away from the top and the time trial is merciless, with him ninth fastest, over two seconds behind Pedrosa. We will have to work hard, but the beginning is one that will make even the most pessimistic pale. The word is up to him.
“Obviously we can't be satisfied when our pace is so far from the leaders, but we knew it would be tough here. Sepang has never been a particularly favorable track for Ducati: we came to race here last October and the bike hasn't changed much since then. We found a couple of interesting solutions during the test, which allowed us to run at a more constant pace on the third day: however, I believe that we need a much more important technical breakthrough. In any case it was nice to get back on the bike and work with the guys on the team again. The team has worked really hard these days and we need to continue to stay motivated and give the engineers the correct information, so that we can start making progress quite soon.”
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Poor guy, what a drag running on a gate...
But why does Ambitious keep quiet and say nothing about the tests????
ahahahahahaha
Don't worry, now that Rossi is no longer there and you will be able to evaluate the changes more calmly, as once you have tried Rossi you will see that the bike will go very fast.
Joking aside, I hope that, as Hayden says, they manage to make a competitive bike.
Where are testoner and fatman???
Nicky, what should I say?
I hope that the Company will truly make its support felt and will soon give you the opportunity to find confidence in the project.
However, Nicky is a great person, always a few lies and a lot of work and dedication.
I agree, he's a great professional...certainly he's not the champion but he's an excellent rider...when Stoner won he didn't come last, on the contrary he did some good placings...the total decline of Ducati was in the moment that we followed the whims of someone who only wins on bikes that even rookies win......it's the reality
Look, I'll ask you the question again...
20 years of racing in the pits you say,
what role did you have, in what races, in motorbikes I imagine?
I'm curious, I want to understand your point of view since even Biaggi and Capirossi and Melandri, the last 2 are also friends with Rossi and the leaders are even very good friends
but I repeat even Biaggi who doesn't really have a great love with Rossi recognizes his merits..
and you discredit him?
I'm starting to think that maybe you don't have very clear ideas...
TONYKART
the total decline of Ducati occurred when we followed the whims of someone who only wins on bikes that even rookies win......it's the reality
This is your reality, Ducati already went downhill with Stoner, let's not talk about the other riders who rode it, who should have continued with that project???? Maybe they called you to win the World Cup.
He truly deserves to be the protagonist when (if, hopefully soon) this bike becomes competitive again.
Of course you are strong:
last year there was always Hayden but it was all Rossi's fault and the Ducati wasn't working, now he's always there, and he will certainly do better than Ambizioso but now it's the bike's fault...
:-)
power of pure Trollagine!
But underestimating the trollage, ugly beast, causes sleep of reason and ghostly nightmares...
ahahahahahaha
…but aren't you the one who suffered the last 2 years and even admitted it?…Among other things to myself? You're the Ultra Troll... you're worse than the Medium Man Troll...
X clay and W the sic
Hi double V, what do you mean by “Trollagine”, just to know, because I have the clear impression that my post will also be called in this way.
I am among those (and I am convinced of this) who gave most of the blame to Vale and Burgess (I always pair them up) for the poor performance of the Ducati and now, they give the same blame to the bike. If you have the courtesy and desire to read the post, I will explain why this reasoning appears "confusing" only in appearance, while in reality, the reasoning has its own natural logic.
The 2010 Ducati was competitive, capable of winning some races and going to the podium consistently with Stoner, but even with Hayden he didn't get a "Lent" from the leaders, as happens now.
As soon as Vale and Burgess got their hands on it (Winter 2010-2011), the problems began and Hayden also began to take panic breaks (like Vale).
Then in 2012, a stroke of genius on the part of Vale (and Burgess). If you want a competitive bike, you need an aluminum frame, it's a shame that the end-of-year tests had shown, without a shadow of a doubt, that the frame wasn't Ducati's problem.
Throughout 2012 there was a negative progression where, in addition to increasing the time gap from the leaders, Ducati also lost the small advantage it had in the wet.
Now, Vale fans will argue that Preziosi was unable to make suitable changes. Maybe, but it makes me think that, more simply, given Preziosi's undoubted qualities as a design engineer, it was the Vale-Burgess combination that gave wrong indications, so wrong that the motorbike suffered an involution (see the gap between best in Sepang in February 2012 and at the end of the 2012 world championship).
Conclusion: 2011-2012, big responsibilities of the "VB duo" because they were the ones dictating the changes and Vale was driving the bike.
Early 2013, the bike is a very expensive gate. Hayden, Dovi, Spies and Iannone are using the same bike as at the end of 2012, but let's remember "WHO" is responsible for the current situation (not all the responsibility can be attributed to the fantastic duo, but a good part certainly can).
I hope it's clear to everyone. this is why some fans (and I am among them), until last year attributed a lot of responsibility to Vale-Burgess and this year they are forced (because the real creators have left) to give responsibility to the performance of the bike.
The riders are what they are, none of the 4 have proven to be a phenomenon, but they have proven to possess excellent qualities. They cannot be expected to have exploits like Stoner's, especially because the bike, from being competitive, has been transformed into a real (automatic) gate.
Ligera I calmly read your post, obviously I won't call you a troll, because you didn't write like a troll, but I don't agree anyway.
Hayden himself, at the end of the 2012 Jerez tests, said about the GP12:
“I would have liked to be closer to the top and have a better pace, but this is still the best Ducati I've ever ridden – he declared – It's the easiest to ride, it gives a lot of feedback and I can 'feel' it well”.
Despite this, the others have improved much more and faster, which is why the gap has increased, the bike has obviously not deteriorated, but Honda and Yamaha are improving at a rate that is not sustainable by Ducati.
Despite Vale and his team.
Then if Hayden says bullshit... ;)
Aeneas
…well done Ligera…it's exactly like that…after all, Rob also complimented you on your posts…in any case it's a waste of breath…especially with those who keep the truth who always respond first ah, ah, ah…intervene more on the forum, you are perhaps the only one together with Vecchio Lupo who is the target... ah, AndreaG is also there... just don't become m@erd@ like me... you'll see that the canaries will suffer this year too!!!!
ahahahahahaha
no Pulcino Pio will ever be able to suffer even the most cowardly of canaries!
Drink another Lagavulin Fart-man if that helps you get over it…
ahhhhahhahahahah
but then, the best of all, Golden Globe-worthy comedic joke is when you say:
…on the other hand, Rob also complimented you on your posts…
wow! azz, clash between "oracles" holders of the Absolute Truth. Which obviously in your world of elves and winged horses would correspond to the fact that Rossi is always a shit@
this is the synthesis of your thought: and anyone who supports it suddenly becomes a "god".
Muuuuahahahahahaha:
poor victims of a collective hallucination!
But at least you are justified because alcohol has decimated your neurons as the most basic scientific literature teaches, it's all these other snack buddies of yours (who are also teetotalers) who don't understand each other...
I keep saying: but do you want to talk about motorcycles? the Great Priests of Absolute Knowledge about the planet Moto da Corsa, let them be called
Rob, Liggera, Pippo, Pluto, Donald Duck, it doesn't matter, do I want to educate us with their infinite science about motorbikes?
Well! Let them do so, we are all ears and eager to increase our knowledge on the subject!
But so far NONE OF THEM, NOT ONE, have managed to do it WITHOUT spraying diarrhea all over Rossi!
Is this all their immense knowledge about racing motorbikes??
This is the only thing that makes them "poor people" and not Wise.
Point.
@ligera
my post above was for fart-man (I think it was clear)
I will try to answer you seriously as per your request.
1. your post is just a fake do-gooder, because it doesn't absolve the VB duo as you call it at all, but rather - between the lines - it increases their responsibilities.
2. I don't dream, I don't have visions, I don't draw fantasy scenarios: I try to stick to the facts.
And the facts are that Ducati didn't win a thing from 2003 to 2007, despite having the best Capirex of all time!
In 2007 she found a "throttle god" who literally raped her and thanks also to some lucky circumstances between tires and rules, she won a World Cup.
Among other things, it remained the only World Championship, despite the fact that the "Martian" raced there for another 3 seasons. And despite the fact that in addition to Stoner for 4 seasons, Melandri, Rossi and the aforementioned Capirex himself raced there before and after: all great Champions.
Just as the Rossi/Rossa marriage didn't work, the marriage with the other riders didn't work either.
So far nothing bad, it can happen, but your most unforgivable crime is to claim - instead - that all Ducati's problems are to be blamed on VB... A statement that qualifies itself.
To date, neither before nor after 2007 has Ducati shone in the MGP Olympus and it has been 10 consecutive seasons.
Is it all VB's fault?
Right.
If you like to continue to "get drunk" on this space ball, go ahead, sometimes delirium helps us face realities that we don't like.
But, honestly, I admire the fart-man more who at least gets drunk on some very high-class whisky.
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA :D
Sorry Wilsic but you cracked me up…HEHEHEH :D
Let's go from Franciscan Lyon who goes crazy every now and then, to you who always go crazy and sometimes act like a Franciscan... heheheh^^
Obviously I support everything you say, I posted above Hayden's statements about the GP12, the best Ducati he said he had ever ridden, but no one responded to me... even just to blame me... no one... hihihi ^^
After all, it's well known that Hayden talks nonsense, he should enter this forum and get advice from fart-man* and rob... and ligera**... after all, if Rob complimented his posts, he can only be a luminary **…!!!
Come on... now I'll leave you to argue because work is calling me... hihihihi ^^
*fart-man deserves…hihihi ^^
**Obviously this little punchline is dedicated to fart-man who exalts everything that is pre-approved by rob, not to you directly... ;)
Aeneas
…go,.Suffer Man…continue to suffer together with your trolled friend who is also trolled…
easier to drive…
you are just chickens...
Vale and Burges made the bike easy to ride, the problem is that it doesn't work...
it also means that rossi is not the rider (as you always reiterate) who has the merit of having made any bike win, at the first real challenge he gave up... always had official bikes and without a teammate, when he took one yes the Michelin tester is chosen...when Lorenzo arrives we know how it ended...:-)))))))))))))))))
you say that Rossi won everything. But he lost the most important challenge, in your face and that of Cereghini and Lucchinelli, how many times did they say they would have liked to see it go with the Ducati (according to them Stoner won thanks to the Marelli electronics)
satisfied!!!!!
you had it for two years
two years of humiliation…………….
Bibo you should tell Hayden in person that he's a chicken...!!!
He said that the GP12 was the best Ducati he had ever ridden, just because it was easy to ride... :D
Of course, Nicky has a lot to learn from this blog… hehehehe :D
Aeneas
Hi Aeneas
the gaps for Hayden (when Stoner was in Ducati) stood at the second more or less per lap. While Stoner was fighting for the front row, after the arrival of Rossi the gap increased by a second...
:-)How wonderful
Of course... since Rossi arrived, the Ducati improved a little, the Japs a lot... ;)
The fact is that Hayden's statements at the beginning of 2012 leave no room for interpretation... the vale team was doing a good job, but the original project was still a dead end.
I repeat that Hayden rarely says bullshit or talks nonsense... ;)
Aeneas
@ Aeneas,
thank you, as already said on other occasions, the esteem and pleasure of reading each other is mutual.
As for the fact that all these Pulcini-Pios don't respond to serious questions or posts, you should know by now that there is NO hope for that to happen...
So it's worth taking it out on the infinite k@zzeggio like they do and going to other forums - the totally de-trolled ones - to write serious things about motorbikes...
;-)
but get a grip... you're the worst troll.... why did you come back so forcefully???? I repeat to you that I hope that your favorite wins a lot... you know what awaits you after all this overbearing party... (just for tests...)
I forgot to say that I didn't want to be arrogant... you know, knowing you??!!
...but come on, testiners...they are coherent...it's you who doesn't understand ah, ah, ah...let's drink to it!!!
@testoner:
go to Wikipedia and read carefully what “troll” really means:
you will see it will be like being in front of the mirror for you!
Do you like to fill your keyboard with insults directed at me, as if I were VR's brother, grotesquely and pathetically aping your plagiarist (fart-man)?
Go ahead, but this makes you a real troll: whether you or your other worthy childish friends call me a troll doesn't bother me, it doesn't bother me because I know who I am:
1. I have never insulted, offended, shamefully and vomitingly shot shit at any pilot, which is something you do DAILY with VR. Not a day goes by and not a post goes by that you don't go wild in this sense. It's obvious that this amuses you a lot, but it amuses only you. And it is YOUR ONLY REASON FOR BEING in this forum.
2. I accept irony and jokes from other users if they remain within respectful limits; but I respond in kind and even criticize those who insult me as you do DAILY, you, Fart-man, bibo and 2 or 3 other suburban trolls. If you don't like me to respond in kind, I've already said it 1000 times to all of you, IGNORE ME! Forget that I exist!
Like I do 9 times out of 10 with you, and then on the tenth I go down hard.
But don't do it, you enjoy offending and insulting, CREATING inevitable FLAMES FIRST.
So okay, let's carry on like this: on this forum we come to beat each other up and on others we write about motorbikes and riders with intelligent people!
In other words: in the morning I go to class at the University and I'm serious, while in the evening I go to a place (this one) where I know I will find, in addition to intelligent and nice people, also 4 or 5 idiots who I can have fun making fun of making them believe that they are the ones insulting me.
In summary: the fact that you (and that other great alcoholic genius) calls me a "troll" DOES NOT MAKE me a real troll, just like the fact that you, and your worthy pathetic little friends, think they are saints compared to those who don't think like you (while in the meantime, in here, you VERBALLY behave like beasts) doesn't make you better men.
PS
@testoner:
I forgot, unlike someone else, I DO NOT HAVE "favorites"!
If Rossi wins I don't become cooler just as if he loses I don't suddenly become a loser.
There is more, there is much, much more in life... it's just you who experience a forum (which by the way is now just k@zzeggio) as the last outpost of your (useless) pride as individuals!
That's it.
This is another proof of how microscopic your thinking is….
I think you have some amnesia... but have you reread all the posts??? you offend everything (ducati) and everyone…. and we are not talking about pilots but about people who comment jokingly. anyway don't worry, if you write a c@zz@t@ I will always answer you. you can't forbid me... unless you're a doctor.
@testoner:
I'm sorry, but you're the one suffering from amnesia or hallucinations:
Ducati never offended, just expressed two things.
1. Facts! In 11 years of Championships, only 1 world title thanks to lucky events and a driver who managed to hit the mark 1 out of 4 years he raced there.
Rider praised by you as the greatest phenomenon in the history of motorcycling of all time. Let's pretend it's true, even more so, if this is the case in 4 years only one wins and it's the motorbike which is a gate.
2. Opinions: I only expressed "opinions" and not offenses;
not like your "opinion" on Rossi and his fans, among which I don't count myself anyway, it's the one we read every day and it speaks for itself;
while mine on the Ducati is that it's a gate and/or kicking mule. The difference is that mine is an "opinion" based on concrete facts, yours are gratuitous insults, because the concrete fact about Rossi says the opposite and that is that he won everything that was winnable in all the categories and on all the bikes.
Like it or not.
Let's get to the Users: are you saying that I offend everyone?
It may be that it offends, but NOT everyone without distinction, but rather "all.those.whom" insult and offend me first and by the way not always.
So please go and re-read the posts yourself….
I keep saying you have trouble... remembering.
Ragassuoli allow me to summarize the situation for you... ;)
When Vale was in difficulty, the antivales wrote the impossible and more, there were rumors that even the spread was Rossi's fault, and the Valentinians had to largely swallow it, except for a few diehards... etc etc..
Now that it's worth it, it seems like he's recovered, the Valentinians do the same thing in reverse, so it would seem like they're righting a wrong... we're the good guys...!!! hehe :D
But then the anti-Valentinian (rightly) reminds the Valentinian that when Rossi dominated in the past, it was the Valentinian himself who threw shit at his rivals... and so on... ;)
I don't think it's appropriate to do historical research to verify who insults whom first...!!
If you resurrect my first posts against testoners, stoners or H95RR you will understand that I was and am probably worse than you... but if we were able to detach ourselves from cheering for a moment, from the adult people that we are, perhaps this would be one more place where we can meet and exchange 4 quiet chats... ;)
Later…! :)
Aeneas
Ps
Please don't flog me by accusing me of fake do-goodism... ;)
This wasn't really my intent... ;)
Aeneas
@eneas:
look, I would be the first to enthusiastically welcome this proposal of yours, it would truly be a miracle, but I don't know if it could really happen in reality to NOT READ any more insults to Pilots or even worse to Users of this forum....
well, we'll see.
@Aeneas. unfortunately there are few people who understand... you enea are one of those who understood over time. and it makes me happy.
But in fact the goal is not to ban more or less veiled insults... unfortunately those will always be there
(on both sides, I don't want to investigate who is better at insulting),
However, we can try not to add fuel to the fire, we can try to create a group of about ten people who, even if they have different ideas, make this blog seem like a respectable place... ;)
There are several "stable" users here, if we already started this work, even the few new entries would adapt... but if we are the first to flame at every opportunity (and I'll put myself in the middle) it's over...!! :D
And in any case…. GO WELL!!!
hehehehehehehehe :D
Aeneas
Unfortunately I think that without a TRUE SILENCE of insults, it is difficult to start building something....
It's as if in a war you said: the objective is Peace, but there's no need to stop shooting at each other, it's fine to shoot yourself a little but without exaggerating.
Sorry, I don't think it works...
And in any case, you too know very well that the problem HERE is absolutely not the new entries, but rather some now historic users, except for a few new nicknames which however hide old acquaintances... ;-)
Let's try... ;)
If you get shot in war, you die, game over.
If here every now and then we overlook some annoying outing, no one dies... maybe the person who made it, seeing that it fails to warm up spirits, will have less motivation the next time...
If we isolated, on both sides, the extremists of the insult, in a limbo of indifference, rest assured, they would disappear.
I emphasize “on both sides”.
All right, come on... I'm going to eat, in Terronia we eat late lunch..!! hehehe :D
Aeneas
wilsic
In short…
Aeneas is consistent with what he says
on the other hand, culture aside, you seem a bit confused, because in fact you hide behind a finger, your posts are offensive because you don't speak like others, you do it from above about I don't know what....
the other day you replied to me saying that it wasn't true that you were making a fuss about your work skills, but as they pointed out to you, it was all true, you defined yourself as a steamroller in your profession...
now you definitely spend less considering the current times... one day you like someone, another day you put them on your black list...
I repeat, if you are a representative at my place you would sell little... because even though I have the eighth grade I know how to listen and evaluate people, at my place a representative sells if the product is valid, not if he is nice, also because he acts nice just to sell you something... …
Unfortunately, a silent "essay" was never written...
Thank you bibo, for once again having me, I won't say insulted, but gratuitously attacked me.
Thank you very much, it means many things and helps me understand many things.
I'm sure that after writing this post above you will have felt a little more satisfied and a little more "cool", and just think, if I didn't exist, or I didn't write, you would have less enjoyment...
So I thank you: you make me feel useful, I'm actually happy that thanks to me you've had an extra whim, you have a little enjoyment that you otherwise wouldn't have.
PS
Don't worry, I'm sure that if instead of insulting each other here, we knew each other in person we would like each other, without having to want to sell you something at all costs...
wilsic
2. I accept irony and jokes from other users if they remain within respectful limits; but I respond in kind and even criticize those who insult me as you do DAILY, you, Fart-man, bibo and 2 or 3 other suburban trolls. If you don't like me to respond in kind, I've already said it 1000 times to all of you, IGNORE ME! Forget that I exist!
I don't offend you on a daily basis
I just got tired of hearing about the troll
as regards the wise silence, I don't understand why you who mention it are the first not to do so...
I'm telling you this in friendship, not as an offense, in my opinion you are very touchy and also full or proud of yourself (not that this is wrong) but this (again in my opinion) leads you to misunderstand, and to have slightly excessive reactions in our comparisons, we talk to make fun of each other without wanting to bully anyone!!!!
It's difficult to interpret what others tell you, because you don't know in what state of mind it was written!
In any case, I'm not mad at you and I don't even exist because you quote me (see another reason to call yourself presumptuous :-)...)
I simply answer you as I would with any COMMON person, whether important or not
why should I ignore you??
if you write on a blog it must also accept replies
PS
Don't worry, I'm sure that if instead of insulting each other here, we knew each other in person we would like each other, without having to want to sell you something at all costs...
bye long live the sic!!!!
I had another bad bad one but I'm keeping it in reserve!!!!!
;-)
hehehehehhe I overdid it a bit...