MotoGP: Lin Jarvis “We expected tension between Rossi and Lorenzo, but instead they work together”
However, the fact that the two competing never "crossed paths" certainly helped to ease the tension
Lynn Jarvis in an interview granted to MCN he talks about the hitherto idyllic relationship between Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo. Last year, Yamaha was immediately ready to take back "the prodigal son" after the two disastrous years in Ducati, even if the Japanese's only concern was the tension that would be created in the team by bringing together the two old teammates. In fact, Rossi and Lorenzo were together from 2008 to 2010 and in those three years relations were very tense, so much so that in 2010 the team was divided with an internal wall. This year, however, there was none of that.
“It certainly surprised us a bit – Lin Jarvis said – their relationship was our main concern before deciding to put them back on the same team. We certainly didn't want to create problems in the internal balance of the team. Instead, since the first day of this season we haven't had any problems, in fact they are working together. They didn't become friends also because they have different cultures and friendships, but as regards the professional aspect, both are working on the bike also because they understood that they can benefit from the input coming from the other."
The relationship between the two has now improved first of all because the two riders have matured compared to three years ago. Furthermore, after two disastrous years with the red bike, Rossi certainly couldn't return to Yamaha by banging his fists on the table and then, another main factor, this year Rossi and Lorenzo never hit each other in the race in a duel. It would be nice to see how it goes after a new duel like the one in Catalunya in 2009.
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It's simple...Rossi can no longer afford to be the first lady because on the track he regularly takes it from Jorge...they finally made him lower his crest!!
it looks like Dolentino's requiem...
...ahahahahahahah...in any case, last year he already knew that he would be the second driver in the team...they must have shaved him well...they must have told him: "we'll take you back after the failure in Ducati and after your tantrums...but be good , earn less and don't bother...."...he must have thought that he was still as lucky as he used to be and that in a very short time he would dominate again...instead now we all have to put up with the wild card story.... dad's words." Disgraziano Rossi”…works for next year…a nine-tituli player who works in perspective, what a str@nz@t@ ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!
Of course he knew it but do you want to bet that deep down he thought he was going faster on the track?
http://motociclisti.myblog.it/archive/2013/09/19/rossi-peso-troppo-ho-problemi-di-consumo-ma-in-realta-pesa-1.html
like the scrolls never end (apologies)
Actually the difference in kg is 2 and not one.
At least that's what it says on the MotoGP website.
Well... Cal also confirmed the thing... That is, that both he and Rossi are at the limit of consumption, because they weigh A COUPLE of kg more than Lorenzo and that the latter saves fuel slightly because he uses the clutch much more...
Also declaring that in Montegi both he and Rossi will have to cut power….
Sic also had these problems dear marco/mugello/mm/….. (I've now lost count).
You also haven't answered this yet:
mugello, did you read what your Stoner said?
“Of course he was forced to go to Ducati, even if in my opinion he did well from a financial point of view, but I don't think this experience will be positive for the sporting results he will achieve, also because now he actually rides an official bike. ”
Is he also under treatment?????????
Since the last one the officers have had the now famous change, but it wasn't like that then...
In testing there is no problem with consumption and it is still a long way behind, here is the new excuse for the freak show, hahaha what a farce!
Sorry H….
But I answered in Mugello and you answer? :)
But leaving this aside (strange, the inept guy no longer shows up... Or rather, he no longer shows up with the nickname "mugello")....
What does what you wrote have to do with what I wrote?
The first to confirm it was Cal, not Rossi...
Do you maintain that 2kg makes no difference with these bikes? ahahahahaha
Luckily you pride yourself on being an expert motorcyclist…
I have a bit of experience on the track (not at levels, nor at alien levels like they are), and you can feel a difference of 2kg...
And I remind you that in MotoGP we work to remove GRAMS….
Obviously, Valentino doesn't have the pace to keep up with those up front... An enthusiast should know, his train has passed. But this doesn't make him a bastard... He has already demonstrated...
From what you write, I believe that the one who has never ridden a motorbike is you...
IDIOT, you are not allowed to write my name. stay away understood!!!!!!
I respond to serious and sane people, not to a lying idiot. write your beliefs but far from quoting me. Got it IDIOT.
Apart from the fact that what I wrote was for my friend from Mugello about the nonsense said by the media about weight, then I have never passed myself off as an expert motorcyclist even if....., I don't buy these shit about weight and look the last two races to confirm the clown's cag@ta how did Lorenzo-Marquez-Pedrosa arrive at the finish from the heaviest to the lightest and so what?
Excuses, excuses, excuses only that is the best of all the puppet!
Ah ah ah ah
You don't realize (but I had no doubts) that you're also calling Stoner mentally ill AHAHAHAHA...
Poor Inept…
Well, I have a hard time not mentioning you, given the amount of nicknames you have.
Insult, that's all you know how to do.
Demonstrating what character you are and how happy you are :)
Poor Inept!
I forgot.
You call Stoner a lunatic, a liar and mentally ill..
Ahahahha Poor thing, how sweet.
Are you moving on to threats now?
Now that's raising the level of conversation!
Good boy! This is how it's done!!!
What a person (I'm not quoting you, you never know) cultured and able to relate!
PS: Did the return to school go well?
I renew my compliments again. Good boy!
The “model” user!
Well done Mugello and nice article.
For all "canaries" or whoever takes their place.
Still with this weight thing?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (and here I stop)
With the quietest irony in the world:
1, 2 kg more (of physical weight, not of ballast) on 260 horsepower engines are very important, fundamental, it is these 2 kg that do not allow them to win in terms of consumption, but why, didn't you know? And then you allow yourself (among you logically) to take him for a ride?
Must use a softer mapping (in the last part of the race).
Still arguing over real trifles, the important thing is that Valentino Rossi's real problem takes second place, third place, maybe it isn't talked about at all.
Enough with these excuses, they don't even hold a sheet of A4 paper.
Of course, "pecking" at everything also exposes you to not-so-subtle giggles.
I would be curious to read about Antonelli who has plenty of ballast with a Moto3.
If that's the problem, lose weight. Losing 2kg is not a big job.
“I look bad,” said the Marchioness, walking on mirrors.
...ahahahahaha...what do you want someone who weighs 164 kg to say...but it seems that BCS is nervous in defending forcefully and complains that, in fact, it is indefensible...probably, in the past, the geriatrician will have earned some money to him too...the only excuse to defend him is this, otherwise "go with ineptitude" ahahahahaah!!!
Go on a diet, right?
Come on, you see dear fatman, at least I introduced you to a new term in the Italian language.
At least you used some of the time you have available (I presume) to look up a word in the dictionary, instead of insulting (users/pilots) and wishing death and injury to a pilot...
But now we know what your level is, and fewer and fewer people consider you.
Let's hope that when Rossi announces his retirement, we will see people like you retire.
Hello good Sunday
I've been reading your comments for a long time but I've never responded out of laziness. I don't know how you can be Italian and hate so much one of the few winning Italian drivers in the last 20 years..
I am a fan of Rossi, who was a champion, who is still a champion and who evidently is not now, and will no longer be at the level of a few years ago. You offend Rossi a lot..but in the end Lorenzo wins, Marquez has a great race and no one comments..Rossi comes fourth and makes 30 comments haha!! I mean you hate Rossi but you're obsessed with him.. what bothers you? Take the piss out of him but Rossi meanwhile has a mattress full of money. Most of you are normal working people who can barely afford a motorbike. Rossi's life is enviable... Rossi can afford to run for the pure pleasure of running. Because he only has that in life, he gave everything to the bikes, putting it before his family and everything. THE difference between stoner and Rossi is that both are talented, but stoner ran for the money and because he had a great talent...why didn't he exploit it!!
Look at this photo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUeVsODCEAAjXN5.jpg
You can say what you want about Rossi...than he is stronger, as a fan I admit that this is the case, but you can't help but share his passion for motorbikes. Rossi is always on motorbikes! Rossi loves motorbikes more than a stoner or a Lorenzo who wants to quit quickly.
Look at the photo, there is Hayden, Pasini, Petrucci and many others... they run for the pleasure of doing it... and Rossi can race there in Moto GP and finish last, just because he likes it because he has fame , money too, he won the World Cup. ROSSI NO LONGER HAS TO PROVE ANYTHING TO ANYONE. AND YOU, FATMAN, MUGELLO AND OTHER LOSSERS, GET A LIFE.. go and comment on Lorenzo winning.. instead, gnaw at what Rossi has and you will never have. Whether you like it or not Rossi will be remembered as one of the greatest of all time ;)
http://www.daidegasforum.com/images/1117/valentino-rossi-dani-pedrosa-bambini-giovani.jpg
http://www.daidegasforum.com/images/1088/piloti-spagnoli-giovani-lorenzo-marquez-gibernau-pedrosa-xaus.jpg
Look at these 2 photos.. Rossi.. Lorenzo, Pedrosa and Marquez are riders from different eras. Rossi's is at its sunset, Lorenzo's is not at his peak, and Marquez's is on the rise. From next year and for many years in the future Marquez will dominate... and sooner or later Lorenzo will end up like Rossi. It's life guys.. but you have too much hate, too much resentment, have a break and don't bother.
Durim "oak shield" has arrived to teach us how to live, ahahah like losers but he... ahahah, ah he doesn't have to prove anything anymore???
NO STOLTO it is now against strong opponents and on equal terms that he must PROVE!!!
Abboccalone, loser and tarluk, ahahahahah!!!
In my opinion, the limit on consumption and weight is really a problem (and I've thought so since Pedrosa's debut in MotoGP).
Even a kilo should be controlled and there should be a maximum margin as a difference in weight between bike and rider.
The problem is: if we consider that for example in F1 type competitions you look at the difference per kilo and you have powers around 800HP how can you ignore differences of 1 or two kilos on a motorbike?
One, like Pedrosa for example (I'll take him because he's the smallest), will have a SIGNIFICANT advantage in acceleration out of corners compared to riders, and there are some, who weigh 5/6 kg more than him.
Pedrosa's size is ONLY an advantage. The problem of force is TOTALLY insistent as the motorbike "responds" in the same way to the force exerted by the rider (also based on his weight). So the strength that Pedrosa needs is no MORE than that needed by Rossi or Crutchlow (said in an "ignorant" way).
However, Pedrosa finds himself with a notable advantage when exiting corners due to the weight difference.
In my opinion there should definitely be a limit to this and anyone who, despite himself, finds himself lighter should be ballasted (on the motorbike).
Finally: ballast has proven to be an advantage several times because manufacturers use it in specific points of the bike and sometimes it can solve problems and the rider's effort remains unchanged.
Or instead of ballast, more petrol is allowed to those who weigh more (effectively allowing them to have full power until the end of the race).
In F1 they weigh the car and driver BEFORE and AFTER the race and if a kilo is missing it's cabbage.
In fact, 220 HP with 150 kilos of weight attached to it are more effective than 220 HP with 155 kilos (just to calculate the servant)
This weight issue is the last nice piece of cake on the scale, all it takes is one goes to the bathroom and the other doesn't and it's nice to have 1kg resolved, or you eat two salamis before weighing yourself and that's the extra kg, but come on, stop it!
So what should Antonelli in moto3 say?
Let's stop with the busca excuses and that's it, now the media puppet has to prove to me that I can win against strong drivers with no advantages otherwise it's always a blowout and everything we others have always said IS WORTH GOLD!
@H954RR But what do you expect from Rossi? that he comes out saying "yes, now I'm a piece of shit, will I always get 4?" He has said it several times that the others are faster with him and the drawing on the helmet of him chasing the others also confirms this. She said that the other 3 are faster than him. This doesn't mean he has to be in low morale... when he says "we have to improve" you attack him, when he says "the others are faster" you attack him... For goodness' sake... he uses a few too many excuses, and I say this as a fan of Rossi...but you have to put yourself in his position. More often than not, it's those from Mediaset who ruin Rossi's image. He gets fourth and they tell him "why did you get fourth?" what should he answer you? It's normal for you to look for excuses... but like everyone else. Even Pedrosa, although more sincere than Rossi, at Silverstone said that he had run out of tyre, here that he had no grip... etc. but no one attacks him.
H954RR Rossi doesn't have to show you an emeritus cabbage! Not for you or anyone else! He won his world championships against Biaggi, Gibernau, Pedrosa, Stoner and Lorenzo. Point. Get a life and stop living just to offend Rossi.. you have to stop. Here there are people who are fans of Rossi like pigs who are exaggerated, they are too biased.. and people like you from Mugello and others who only live to offend Rossi.. but ENOUGH!
That's nonsense, I'm sorry.
Explain to me why, if they weren't nonsense, in sports like F1 but also endurance races with LMP1 prototypes, we look at the single kilo of difference.
My speech is a speech that goes beyond Rossi or Crutchlow.
As mentioned, the problem, which was raised precisely when Pedrosa entered MotoGP, in my opinion exists and there is NO DOUBT that it is an advantage.
I repeat: in F1 the car and driver are weighed at the beginning and especially at the end of the race.
And if the 1Kg factor is important on a vehicle that has 800hp, why shouldn't it be important on one that has "just" 220hp?
Instead of blocking your eyes with Rossi and seeing him from all sides and going straight like mules, try to read better and ask yourself the problem in an objective sense (which is the sense in which I posed the topic without thinking of Rossi at all)
And you think that at the beginning Pedrosa almost had to compete for entry into the premier class precisely because he was small! Naturally it has the advantage in acceleration, but to make the bike turn, its center of mass remains closer to vertical than others can. And this complicates things quite a bit for him.
Honestly, I'm for the "natural" selection of drivers. If someone doesn't have the physique to be the best, there are problems for him, too many corrections would lead to too much artificiality; like those races between men and horses.
Well done n75 that's what I said too and then they say I don't understand a thing about how to ride a motorbike, ahahahah, and they also act like experts without knowing these basic things!
I understand if you know this that you ride a motorbike right?
I spend very little time on my motorbike (unfortunately) and mostly just try to get out unscathed.
What I have said are only notions of physics-mechanics and not even very advanced ones.
Anyway, well done and congratulations, bye.
@durim any motorcyclist with the throttle knows very well that for motorbikes 34 years are nothing, the physical and mental decline comes around the age of 40, remember this well.
And yes, I repeat that it is now with strong opponents and on equal terms that he has to prove everything that has always been said about him and I don't expect him to say I'm a piece of shit, God forbid, but only for him to admit and stop with the excuses, stop!
@thorns I already told you about the kg, and think what you want but the facts say the opposite.
Greetings.
@H954RR But what do you know about the age at which a pilot is no longer the same as before??! But what do you know? You offend Rossi for having won against old riders like Biaggi when Biaggi was only 29 years old when Rossi arrived in the 500 class.
Agostini, 1942, wins the last world championship in 75, at 33 years old!
Schwantz, 1964 won the last world championship in 93, at the age of 29,
Stoner won the last world championship at 26
Doohan won the last world championship at 33 years old
Wayne Rainey won the last world championship at 32 years old
Kenny Roberts won the last world championship at 29 years old
VALENTINO ROSSI won the last world championship at 30 years old... that's the age... it's useless for me to be 40 years old, boy!! The difference is that Rossi is continuing when perhaps he could have retired in 2009 or 2010.
Then explain to me... who makes Rossi risk his life after he has everything? Marquez is a monster because he's not afraid. He still has to win everything and prove everything, as talented as he is. Rossi after seeing Simoncelli die, after all the serious accidents that are happening, after winning everything, everything! after being full with money... who makes them take that extra bit... because it's that little bit, that tenth that you risk falling that changes a lot. Rossi is now 34 years old... racing for the pleasure of it and is afraid of getting hurt. Plus he doesn't have the same anger, desire, ability that he might have had at 24 years old. But how can you not understand it??? You really are a bunch of idiots. You, fatman, mugello and the other losers who live to offend Rossi. Get a life and go comment on Lorenzo winning instead of always commenting on Rossi... you're obsessed with him. Yours is a terrible envy of someone who has everything and you have nothing.
You think you know, my dear, but you know nothing.
H954RR.. the apology thing, I understand it, I don't agree but I understand it. The fault lies with those at Mediaset... they are the ones who inflate the reds, who idolize him, who try to find excuses. That is, Beltramo presents himself as Rossi, who placed fourth because he is evidently not at the level of the other 3, just as Pedrosa always places third because he is not at the level of the other 2 and tells him
“but Rossi..so..how is it possible that you finished fourth?” and Rossi either tells him "yes..I'm shit" or otherwise he'll try to tell you "yes..but we did the first part better, I didn't have much feeling etc." But Pedrosa also says the same thing when he finishes third and Beltramo tells him "you're third of the 3".. and what does he have to say? Pedrosa is more sincere, for goodness sake, but he also says "not much, grip, finished tire etc"
Then ROSSI CLEARLY SAID THAT LORENZO, PEDROSA AND MARQUEZ ARE FASTER THAN HIM. HE ADMITTED IT.. so don't expect anything more and if his apologies bother you, don't come and read them.. read Lorenzo's comments who wins and amen. Don't come and comment. You have, and have, become heavy! repetitive, monotonous and heavy.
X durim oak shield (for previous posts. I hope it does not offend you to extend your nick, I liked it immediately so long):
In Vale's position, 90° in front of Ezpeleta, I don't put myself there, I'm sorry.
To ruin Vale's image (we can't stand it anymore with this "image", but is "image" so important?) of Vale, he thinks about it alone, he and his father are already halfway there.
Rossi doesn't have to prove anything to me, he is already confirming what I think of him.
Durim oak shield, don't take it so hard when they say different things than you.
I don't want what follows to pass as my boasting because it isn't, on the contrary, I have no difficulty in saying that I am one of those "ill-mannered" precarious workers at school who bother ministers so much.
I am a professor of Sports Science and I too, I can assure you that nowadays drivers (but all athletes) who follow simple rules, get in shape at an age that a few decades ago was considered "old men".
Vale has always practiced a healthy life, he has never exceeded the 3 deadly classes, Bacchus, Tobacco and Venus.
Vale has always trained with consistency and diligence, following annual programs in the gym, aided by training on motorbikes.
Vale, fortunately for him, has reached this age, practically intact physically, at least when compared to the riders he is fighting with now for example.
Vale is lucky enough to no longer have to ride 2-strokes which, even with lower power, lacked electronics that made them wild beasts.
Vale is lucky to ride 4-strokes packed with electronics that make the bikes safer, more docile and easier to ride at the limit.
It's not just a question of often partial admissions or apologies, a rider like Valentino has always wanted to pass off, he shouldn't (and shouldn't) make a release of responsibility.
Example (it's not just this)
Stoner, spent “sad years” (2009 – 2010) at Ducati. Having moved to Honda he never spoke ill of the Red, on the contrary, even today, when the disaster is evident, he found points of hope.
Valentino, since the beginning of 2012 (wanting to be good), has shoveled tons of ...... onto his motorbike, as if he were not from the same parish, while he has always had the famous "carte blanche".
As the legendary Totò said, “and I clean my……….”
Too bad?
Ligera without going around too much I'll tell you that you're great!
“Too bad?” but too good hahaha!
..of course not..two kg of extra weight on a 250 horsepower vehicle makes a huge difference both in the flying lap and in the race...anyway, since I'm not a technician, I want to give the benefit of the doubt and therefore perhaps in the During the race the 2 kg more can also influence consumption and therefore power management... but the fact is that, dear Vale, you wouldn't win even with 10 kg less...
Speaking of salami…
From the MotoGP website:
Pedrosa 51Kg
Rossi 67Kg
If this is not advantage tell me H954RR
Marquez 59kg
Lorenzo 65Kg
Those fewer kilos, and I'm not one, in your opinion aren't they an advantage?
So much for it!!!
PS: just for a laugh... but if I eat a 1kg salami I'll go to hospital! Congrats on your appetite!!!! :D
..ahahahaha… think about what I should say… 1,91 and 164 kg…
And remember that controlling the motorbike, making it lean, pulling away hard, changing direction quickly, etc. etc. it's easier if you weigh more on the motorbike with the same kg and the MotoGP bikes all weigh the same, but you have certainly never ridden a motorbike and if you have ridden it you did so on a touring basis, the only advantage if you weigh less it is accelerating but you have to put a lot more strength and effort into the control just mentioned.
But what can I tell you? If your snowman told you that the snow is red, you would call anyone who says it's white an idiot.
Pora gents in the whole history of MotoGP this is an atomic bomb, HAVE IT HAHAHA!
Well the one kg salamella is meant with the sandwich and accompaniment, not just the salamella, and that's it hahaha!
One last thing and then do and comment what you want. You may hate Rossi, but Valentino has everyone's respect and affection that no one else has. In Spain he has more Rossi fans than Lorenzo, Pedrosa and Marquez combined. Lorenzo defined him as one of the strongest ever
http://www.sportlive.it/pictures/20100607/jorge_lorenzo_mugello2010.jpeg As well as Marquez who grew up with Rossi as an idol. Everyone apart from someone like Stoner or Pedrosa praised Rossi... from Cruthlow, to Edwards or Hayden etc.. Your comments are useless and have no value, this is because you are worth nothing. Best wishes ;)
False myths are not destroyed by forum chatter... they self-destruct... and Ducatino is a fantastic example.
…ahahahahahahah…great gigetto…oh well, let's sing along: “…durim durello the forum is nice if you're there…” ahahahahahahahah!!!
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2013/Kevin+Schwantz+on+Marquez+and+Rossi+1
Schwantz on Rossi..”he's still as fast as anybody”
translated for you stupid people "Rossi is still as fast as everyone else" and says that Rossi with more confidence on the bike and himself could fight for the victory. It's from an hour ago... Schwantz... mugello, gigetto, fatman etc. doesn't say it... Schwantz says it. As said... your opinions are worth less than zero.
Proving that you haters don't understand a damn thing about motorbikes.
PS: Gigetto...your chatter doesn't destroy anyone and Rossi didn't destroy himself with the Ducati experience. Once Rossi retires he will be "MOTOgp LEGEND" like Agostini. Rossi will be remembered as one of the best riders EVER! Even with the Ducati experience. Stoner who you praise so much will only be a very talented driver who retired at 26 years old. Pedrosa won't be LEGEND either..maybe Lorenzo..ms maybe. I believe Marquez will become one
Talk talk.. for every minute you waste commenting and hating Rossi, he is worth earning millions.. In your face ;)
Ah here! in our face... instead you have to have the percentage, otherwise it's hard to understand how you manage to say certain things...
I don't have any percentage, but the losers and envious people in Rossi's life are you, not me. Yours is an obsession. You also talk about Rossi in the articles where Lorenzo wins. Rossi is always in your thoughts. I'm almost starting to believe that you're all fr@ci. It almost seems like Rossi is your most intimate desire ;)
SVEEEEGGLLIIAAAA ;)
durim oak shield that you do your analysis and give it to others?
Ahahahahaha YOU WAKE UP!!!
Are you talking about “our obsession”? Have you re-read yourself lately?
“We” (I don't know how much others can agree with my thoughts) take it for the C... and take US for the C...
If you try to reread yourself, I'm sure you'll find a "seriousness" in your words, this is... Obsession-like.
I totally agree, hahaha!
But when have the pilots all had the same weight, they all have the difference in kg and there have always been only that before NEVER anyone complained and talked about it only now to justify the stinky breath from the binges of s@rd@ that the puppet is forced to eat comes the stories of the extra kilos, but wake up, wake up!
1 or 2 kg ok it's not difficult to remove them, and then this year it's a wild car as Disgraziano Rossi says next year with 2 kg less he wins by gap, ahahahahah!!!
But what stuff, this one about the weight with the many excuses that I had imagined coming out is the most spectacular, take the bait people!!!
And v@lemerd@, ahahah!!!
Lastly, just to clarify, so from 2000 to 2005 all the pilots weighed the same, in 2006 and 2007 they didn't have the same weight, then from 2008 to 2009 they all still weighed the same and now from 2010 to and above all to today in 2013 kg make a huge difference, ah ok now I understand, hihihi!
Now I can't tell you from memory... but you can see that before petrol was something more... or consumption was lower. I believe Rossi who says that he has to cut the power to finish the races, the fact that he was left stranded twice proves it.
Obviously, and I say this as a Rossi fan, it is certainly not what makes him not go as fast as the other 3. That can influence 5% of a total of 100... Rossi no longer wants to take risks and if he is not at 100% with the bike as a feeling he doesn't push too much because he's afraid of getting hurt. A crutchlow to tell you even if he's not 100% he pushes like hell...or like maybe Marquez does. What currently distinguishes Rossi and Pedrosa from Marquez and Lorenzo is precisely fear. Look at Pedrosa... after the accident in race 5 he never fought for the victory. Lorenzo was able to get back up but Pedrosa wasn't, he's scared and doesn't care about the world championship as much as a Lorenzo or a Marquez. Just look at Dovizioso on the Ducati.. in the first race he set a 3rd time in qualifying.. then little by little he goes slower and slower because that bike scares him, he doesn't trust it.
Add to this the fact that Rossi is obviously in a declining phase of his career and here he is fourth.
Think about it for once.. you can say valem@erd# all you want, Valentin Rossi is considered a legend of motorcycling, you are just losers who bought a motorbike in their hands and feel like champions. Get a life and maybe even a second one ;) So you can calm down ;)
You're getting good at flipping omelettes, maybe you take inspiration from a user...
The weight of the driver has always been a fundamental element, in all competitions...
From F1 to MotoGP…
Look at the change Petrucci has made on a physical level….
Cal brought up the story about the weight, to explain that he and Rossi often reach the end of the race at the limit and that they have to cut the power more than their opponents at the end of the race...
Rossi, if I'm not mistaken, was left empty twice this year, Cal almost always reached the limit...
Rossi and Cal have not declared that they take second because they weigh more... You do this because you need to turn the tables, otherwise following the world championship would no longer make any sense for you (and in fact you will disappear once there is no longer Rossi in track).
Rossi has repeatedly declared that he is unable to keep up with the top three...
Pffffff that sucks bcs, no I'm not taking inspiration from another user I'm only one user with all the nicknames of those who talk about the clown, are you happy? Ahahahahahahaha!
valem@rda it's not worth it, understand it, it's useless if you continue to defend it, look at the facts, facts, facts!
Here is another character who cannot read what is written….
Valentino hasn't declared that he doesn't win or that he can't keep up with the leaders because of his weight...
He has been declaring since the beginning of the year that HE is unable to drive like the other three….
I repeat: Cal also confirmed the adjustment of power based on weight... But it's a very normal thing... It's not new...
I intervened because someone who claims to be such an expert, allowing himself to write that another user has never ridden a motorbike, well...
You should know that the rider's weight is very important…Especially in a sport where the differences are made by grams and mm….
And where millions are invested to shave 1 gram or 1 mm of thickness….
And now you've adapted to the insult....
Bah... There aren't civilized people who don't insult and who can respond normally to a fantastic sport?
Is it just Rob?
Yes, I think so….
Pffff would be….. hahaha damn what an insult, hahaha think whatever you want!
X bcs
Of course, in MotoGP it is well known that riders were chosen "by weight".
Is Vale inferior to Petrucci? How come he couldn't take 2kg off himself?
I understand, it's easier to "shoot" one (yet another) than to go on a small diet.
All the more reason to go on a diet, Him and Cal.
Of course you're twisted sometimes.
What do the last lines of the 1st post have to do with:
“Rossi has repeatedly declared that he is unable to keep up with the top three…”
if you then write at the beginning of the 2nd:
“Valentino hasn't declared that he doesn't win or that he can't keep up with the leaders because of his weight...
He has been declaring since the beginning of the year that HE is unable to drive like the other three….”
Knowing full well what the main topic was (rider weight).
You even have the nerve to continue writing at the beginning of the 1st:
“You're getting good at flipping omelettes, maybe you take inspiration from a user…”
and at the beginning of the 2nd:
“Here's another character who can't read what is written….”
Think you're really smart?
What the…and!!!!
For me ligera, the forum relationship with you ends here.
It is clear that answering you is useless.
For me, replying to you was "annoying" after just a few of your replies.
You have demonstrated this in all our discussions.
Then:
Take good care of me.
…dearest friend H, I forbid you to use my jokes…Disgraziano Rossi has my copyright…so I'll make happy durim durello who knows English perfectly…while we poor fools only know how to say “valem@erd@” ahahahahahahah!!!
Ahahahahah, but don't forget pig, okay then valem@erd@ ahahahahahahah!!!
EW we poor fools if being educated reduces us like canaries, and in every sense ahahahahahahah!!!
I'm bringing you the interview given by Cal for the Gp O ne site (perhaps the name of the site will be obscured, as has already happened other times).
“It will obviously be a difficult change, the delay in the development of the bike is evident – admitted Crutchlow at the Arai presentation held today in Modena – But I have always wanted to be an official rider, Ducati is an excellent manufacturer, so I said to myself 'why not ?”.
What convinced you to accept?
“There was no need to convince me. I know well the Ducati passion and their desire to return to the top. Domenicali, another one who loves racing, has recently taken on a hierarchically important role (CEO, ed.). There are the conditions for a positive change of direction."
Have you already exchanged opinions on the 2014 bike?
“Absolutely not, I can't make comparisons having never ridden a D16 and I won't even do many laps with the current bike in Valencia in case next year's bike isn't ready yet. It wouldn't make sense, because it will be a different project."
Are you not at all intimidated?
“No, because it's not true that only Stoner was strong with this bike. Capirossi and Bayliss also achieved excellent results. Since Casey left, maybe they've lost their bearings a little. His comments were in line with what other riders make today. But he won a lot, even in the last year with Ducati."
A lot of time has passed though...
“Yes, but I think that even if he got on it today he would be significantly faster than the other Ducatisti. It's obvious that his background, having grown up on dirt tracks, allowed him to develop a unique sensitivity that gave him the ability to compensate for understeer by drifting. But I believe that first of all he was mentally ready to guide it. It's a question of trust."
Do you think that the single tire prevented the House
Italian to be successful in recent years?
“No because no manufacturer makes a motorbike around rubber. Otherwise Yamaha and Honda would be the same, but instead they have very different characteristics and yet they are more or less equivalent in terms of performance. Maybe Ducati needs to understand the characteristics of the tires a little better."
Coming back to the present, what do you expect from
this championship finale?
“I still hope to win a race, even if looking at the last few you wouldn't think I'll do it. I'm optimistic, especially regarding Motegi, even if both Rossi and I will have to cut the power significantly so as not to run out of petrol."
Why just the two of you?
“Lorenzo weighs a couple of kilos less, which at this level makes more of a difference than you might think. Then his driving style, how he uses the clutch, allows him to consume slightly less".
Lorenzo weighs more than Marc and Marc more than Dani and yet the last two races did exactly as I named them first, second and third, but look at the weight!
Hahaha wake up don't fall for the canary masses like the countless stupid and banal excuses of the Tavullia clown that have been circulating for 4 years just for the base attempt to save face but by now almost everyone has understood (almost because canaries are not extinct yet, UNFORTUNATELY !) what is the true value and what is that fake character!!!
H
The weight was brought into play due to the fact that in some situations you have to cut, otherwise you won't reach the end of the race.
It's always been like this.
Reading: "I don't win because I weigh too much" is another matter.
In the "Rossi" case, he himself has declared several times that he is unable to keep up with the leaders because he simply does not have the pace and rhythm to do so.
I brought you Cal's interview, not Rossi's :)
And frankly, I don't see any excuses in it. But the simple fact that those who weigh more have to cut more….
The extreme in recent years was with Sic. He was forced to cut the power of his Honda a lot. Or the multiple cases of Scott Redding.
I mentioned Petrucci because he was the rider who dried out a lot this year, precisely because last year he had these consumption problems, but evidently it wasn't understood.
@ligeria
Do you realize how ridiculous and hypocritical you are? You call me obsessed when you SPENT PERHAPS MORE THAN AN HOUR OF YOUR SATURDAY TO BE ABLE TO OFFEND ROSSI. And would I be the obsessed one?
Do you think you're funny that you write "hahaha" behind your comments thinking you'll make people laugh? Pathetic
Rossi will use many excuses... but it certainly doesn't surpass yours! I mean, are you trying to tarnish the name of Valentino Rossi... the rider with the most victories EVER, 9 times world champion, respected by the majority of riders and who introduced motorcycling to people who had no idea what it was? I mean... you're ridiculous. It doesn't matter what you say in this blog, Rossi is a motorcycling legend and he will be remembered as such.
You, dear Ligeria, will be the professor of motor sciences who takes it up the ass ;) You too will be remembered... in your own way... don't worry ;)
Go reread how many pages of comments you wrote in 2 hours..haha You're not obsessed with Rossi..more than that..you dream of him naked at night ;)
You are among those who, without Vale, didn't know what motorcycling was. True?
I don't offend Vale in any way, unlike what you are doing towards me.
I write what I think and I have never used offensive terms.
Before writing certain things, pay more attention.
I won't be "remembered", God forbid, you know that p...and every day someone who annoys you even when you're among the most.
Your last 2 lines are sufficient (which by the way you didn't understand).
Unlike the nonsense you write, I write something completely different in my posts, above all I read, I inform myself and create my own opinion, I don't start like a sheep with the usual childish phrase... but Vale is loved, Vale won, Vale here It's worth it...
Now that I think about it…Who am I talking to? How old are you? From the arguments mentioned, a doubt arises in my mind.
Now I'll explain my knowledge of the world of motorcycling just because Vale is there.
What, did you steal the computer from daddy?
You don't offend? your first comment of the day was
“For all “canaries” or whoever takes their place.
Still with this weight thing?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (and here I stop)”
I could go on...but you'd beat me. I mean... you definitely know more about Rossi... it's your obsession.
And you, like many others, don't resent Rossi because as a child you queued for an autograph and Rossi didn't sign your autograph. Pleeease ;) You have to overcome certain traumas.. come on ;) Don't hate Rossi for so little :)
…the papy ahahahahahah…but do you still respond to these inferiors? Spn worse than the Lescano trio Lyonn, w il sic and ebea…all out of the forum with various excuses…what tough men ahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!
Hi Fatman.
How can you blame me...You're completely right.
You know, you read nonsense and try to give a coherent answer, but then paying more attention to certain topics.... I noticed the "cosmic nothingness" (so he will feel seriously offended and not just for the friendly "canaries" I have used previously).
Luca Scassa instead of Abraham!
Just one race, just one weekend to move from SuperSport to ART and prove that he deserves that bike until the end of the championship (Karel forced to end the season early due to a shoulder injury). Figuring that his Kawa team won't be very happy about this, he made a tough bet.
...good, good news...in your opinion, if things went badly as I unfortunately think, would you make excuses about your weight like the bcs idol is doing? Ahahahahaah…
We hope to see an exchange of drivers…
fatman.
There are no longer the various Aeneas, Wilsic, and will you move on to me now?….
It seems that this is all you have to do in life….
I read an interesting study on Y ahoo, namely that the performance of your favorite team can affect your weight….
160 kg is several years of gnawing and envy...
Abraham is the owner of his team (his father is, to be precise), he races because he likes it and he can afford it, an exchange is impossible: when he gets better he will get his bike back.
For Scassa it is "just" an opportunity to show off
…164 kg, to be precise, since kilos make a difference for the geriatrician… and for me too!!! Well yes, I'm envious... of your incompetence, I would never be able to say certain c@zz@t@ ahahahahahah...
n75
I wrote about the exchange, because I really can't stand Abraham...
In my opinion he is the perfect example of a mediocre rider transformed into a MotoGP rider thanks to his father's money.
Next year he will have a Honda PR... All that's missing is the announcement (I think).
Yes, it's just an opportunity, but for him to show off will be difficult... Very difficult...
Considering 3 factors:
Service
Electronics
Brakes.
For Italians.
The big problem is that the structures and the various championships that were there years ago are no longer there. Or rather, there are no adequate resources (and projects).
Now they are trying to patch it up, we hope to see the fruits of this work in a few years.
fatman
Sure sure. But you are capable of insulting and wishing death and injury left and right.
I repeat: I hope that with Rossi's retirement, you will retire from this sport too...
To perhaps return to the sport that is more your thing... that is football.
So you can launch scooters from the stands.
164 kg, however, is a lot... You have neglected yourself quite a bit in recent years....
I don't think he's a MotoGP rider, but I suppose he could easily be in Moto2, without being the best, but getting some satisfaction.
It may be annoying that he runs thanks to his father, but he (Karel jr.) also does everything to run even when he is half broken, which is a proof of passion and deserves respect.
Except for that outing "I won in Moto2, I think I deserve the MotoGP" he has never made any big proclamations, I don't remember his misconduct to the detriment of other riders... in short I don't find anything hateful about it, he just seems luckier than others.
Let me start by saying that I am not a fan of the Moto2 and Moto3 categories.
As they are structured (in my opinion) they are not suitable to be World Championship classes.
They're interesting ideas, but they're not interesting now.
All drivers deserve respect, obviously.
But the good A. is certainly not a MotoGP rider (like many others).
And in fact he had to form a team to be able to race…
Exactly what I said.
The curious thing is that, unless there are local wild-cards, as many Italian as Spanish drivers will race in the premier class, yet the hypothesis of a ceiling for Italian participants has never been raised (sigh, they are there but they can't be seen) .