MotoGP Jerez: Valentino Rossi “Sooner or later we will be able to beat Marquez”
On Lorenzo "He suffers from Marquez's victories and I too am more competitive this year"
Valentino Rossi was the author of a great race today in Jerez de la Frontera, scene of the Spanish Grand Prix. The ready-to-go Yamaha rider triggered a beautiful duel with Marc Marquez, the two overtook each other several times in a spectacular manner but then the rider from Pesaro surrendered to the superiority demonstrated by the talent of Honda, today with its fourth consecutive victory. However, the nine-time world champion got the better of Pedrosa's Honda and above all his team-mate Jorge Lorenzo, who has the same bike as him.
Valentino, you're the only one who raises doubts and annoys Marquez, what can you tell us about this?
“I'm very happy, I was hoping to be closer to him in this race, I was fast in practice, but today it was really difficult. It's still a very important second place, we arrived in front of a Honda and I'm sure that if I had dared more I would have risked falling. After half the race the times were similar, but he was now gone."
You seem very energetic this year, does it also depend on the changes you've made in the garage? (replaced Jeremy Burgess with Silvano Galbusera, ed.)
“It was a very risky bet, but I felt like taking it and I can say I won. In today's MotoGP, if we didn't work like this in the garage, shift after shift, everything would be more difficult. This morning we also made a further change, which then paid off."
You've won six times here, what was your goal today?
“We wanted to get to the podium, trying to disturb Marquez and get ahead of Pedrosa, something that I hardly managed to do last year. Then I also managed to beat Lorenzo, who is my teammate and who is therefore my point of reference. Then unfortunately there is Marquez!!”
Will we be able to beat it?
“He beat me (talking about records), he won the first four races while I won three, but I won more in the first 100 GPs, 46 victories against his 36 so... It's obvious that he's going strong, Yamaha has to give us a hand, we have the test tomorrow and although there isn't much news it's still an important test. Bigger news could come for the Barcelona test.
In hindsight, was the hard front tire a good choice?
“I would say yes.. finally! Jorge in fact chose the medium and at the end of the race he was in difficulty.”
Speaking of Lorenzo, what do you think of his start to the season?
“In my opinion Jorge “suffers” Marquez, he would like to fight with him but he can't. Then this year I am much more competitive, so there is a fight between us too, but a fight that stimulates us."
Now comes Le Mans, would you prefer a wet race?
“I would prefer to run in the dry, because it gives much more flavor. We have never ridden in the wet with this bike, but I think I can be competitive."
If Marquez continued to win, could you think of a championship for the "others"?
“I don't worry about that, sooner or later we'll get it!!”
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@Vale
honestly I find it hard to believe it, if Marc continues like this I'll see it very hard...
Congratulations anyway for the Jerez race
And Lorenzo?
Psychological crisis?
I hope not…
Chances are it will have to happen sooner or later, a fall, a contact, rain, a technical problem, a bad weekend, I don't know, we'll see.
Right, sooner or later you'll screw the kid so he'll realize who the champion is, do things calmly... in the meantime you paid Lorenzo... he thinks how it burns hahahahaha !!!!!! GO IS WORTH GO!!!!!! You are the Best of all time.
he's worth 2nd ahead of Lorenzo and Pedrosa, 1st with Fenati in moto3...but the most positive thing is certainly that the various characters who punctually and vulgarly ruin every discussion don't make themselves heard. I think that finally this year we will hear from them less and we will be able to discuss more calmly. HURRY! Marquez really strong, the best currently; Vale is back, this year we can say it and he can also compete for the world championship, with a bit of luck; the disappointment is heavy; Lorenzo is getting older and starting to understand how great Valentino was to win what he won, but above all to still be a winner at 35 years old. I honestly believe that Marquez can currently aim to beat Vale's world championships, but I see it as really hard for him to win again in 2028...
I fully agree. And the first one to call boiled or insult in harsh words a multiple champion who at 35 years old fights like a lion... well... I ASK the moderators of this site to intervene.
What a wonderful way to interpret user input.
Those who see it as "boiled" have their reasons and motivations, which remain personal, just as the interventions of those who use more "colorful" terms (let's define them that way) are personal.
His fans often respond to these personal comments, addressed to the rider, even in an offensive way, targeting the user personally, not the rider or the motorbike to which the support of the user who "attacked" Vale is aimed.
Ultimately, to a personal comment addressed to the driver, his fans intervene with "comments" addressed to the user.
The intervention of a moderator is requested when a user does not believe your (Vale's) statements or conclusions and does not genuflect at your every sentence, but no mention is made of the attitude taken by some national Vale fans.
Personal comments? Are insulting a driver for years personal comments? Insulting is never a personal comment, it's just insulting. A personal comment is a personal comment as long as an opinion is expressed in a civil manner. Otherwise, saying “valem@rda from here to there”, are not personal comments.
If you consider them to be "colorful" personal comments, I will be happy to make equally colorful personal comments about you.
I really don't understand you. Seriously.. I don't like Bautista, I don't read what he says let alone go and comment. Your presence to comment every time what he says is worth more than a personal comment. You don't like it, amen..go and comment on what the riders you like say, comment on Marquez, Lorenzo etc.
Instead you are all here... all here to demonstrate that you hate is valid regardless, if he behaves well, badly, wins or loses. Hello and greetings ;)
Great ligera is what I keep repeating, but do you think they understand what the difference is?
No ! As you can see in the response you received.
Believe me, it's impossible the limit they have doesn't push them further, they will never understand and it's not the only lack of understanding they have, moreover.
After 4 races we can safely say that this year we played Lorenzo!
You say?
Congratulations! You are showing everyone what the passion for motorbikes and this sport is. And it doesn't matter if there are those who hate you..the better you are, the more people hate you ;) In fact, no one will hate Aoyama or Laverty..they hate you because you are among the best. In a couple of years they will hate Marquez too... it's typical of number one! Greetings to all the haters :)
Hate? In motorcycling?
It seems really exaggerated to me as a term.
A very suitable term for football fans, considering the latest events, but in motorcycling...Come on.
Let's all try to keep our feet on the ground, without exasperating the debate (cheering) to take it to dangerous levels.
There are some limited "fans" who have not yet understood that it is not about hatred, just as they have not understood that the reasons that cause these situations are not because you are number 1 (which by the way, that is not) or because you have won a lot but because they are the attitudes and ways of doing things that make a person highly disliked by people, unless you are like him and then everything is ok.
What can you do, they're square, that's how they are, that's how they stay, there's no point wasting time with these, let them say and do it, bye.
Call the firefighters for fatman, who knows how he burns!!!! Hahahaha
Well done Vale, you are always unpleasant to me but I have to admit that the class is not water, you are doing an excellent job not so much in comparison with Marquez but certainly with the other two because one rides the same bike as you but is behind in the standings, the another reason because he rides a more competitive bike than yours but you managed to keep him behind in half the races up to now... for the rest I also said that this race was a crucial first appointment for the season as both Lorenzo (primarily) and Dani would have had to find a way to get in front of 93... it would have been a small step for the ranking but a big step in terms of confidence in his abilities and to trigger that click in his head...
look, I have the impression that those who post the articles don't appreciate what's worth but above all they like to put a bit of fuel on the fire because I haven't seen this interview of worth. It's not on the official website and I can't see the Italian channels since I'm abroad but it's strange to me that he said exactly that... anyway
But the article about Jorge…
at least the title is false since on the official website, in the official interview, Jorge simply said that:
he failed to start well and that he was unable to stay with vale.
Then he adds today he was better.
Before calling the writer (me) false, find out how it works! It's obvious that you can't find it on the official declarations! Otherwise what are we envoys doing? One of the questions in the interviews with Vale is mine (the one on the tire) and the others from the other correspondents.. Who ask to write what is "real" and not communicated by the "house".. Without hatred.. Alessio Brunori
Alessi, without hatred,
but why do you intervene only to defend yourself if they tease you personally, and never issue some preparatory bans when some users of this blog make the discussion a putt@naio...!?
Ok, what you're interested in are clicks, but it's scandalous how you don't even provide us with a shred of moderator.
And it's not the first time I've made this appeal.
Without hatred obviously...
Aeneas
Watch Mine was a legitimate feeling as a reader.
I didn't mean to sound false with this. I respect but above all I thank you for the work you do on the site since I have been reading it all my life.
in fact, in addition to the subscription to the official site which costs me 100 and I'm also always here which is free. So thank you.
among other things I also stated that I don't know what sources you have and therefore I have no doubt.
But understand me: I don't see the Italian interviews because I'm abroad. I only rely on the Spanish ones and the official website.
Sometimes the intonation that I perceive from reading the article here to hearing the interview from the pilot's mouth, even if you faithfully write the things he said, is also a bit interpreted in my opinion.
but it's also beautiful. I honestly miss the interviews of the past where the old school pilots like vale capi max etc. were less political and less boring.
But it is also true that sometimes the article has a different tone.
But I repeat, this is just my perception and sincerely mine was a blog statement or bar chat if you prefer it like many others.
calm.
I add
without hatred.
Regarding the article about jorge
He never said that the bike went bad. (point)
if not, I'll upload the interview to YouTube and post the link.
Indeed, the person who interviewed him actually asked him:
jorge what problem did you have, what problem did you have with the bike that you couldn't manage today?
Lorenzo's answer: no1. I started all the tests badly and in the race I started worse. I wasted time with overtaking. the tire was starting to wear off because I had to drive too aggressively. Vale made a + right choice today he was better.
will you discuss it with me? if you let me see or hear the int where she says so. I take back what I say and apologize.
All this in good ehh
It's a legitimate and clean criticism.
certainly sooner or later bad luck will remember that the n°93 also exists, not that any bones are broken, never that, but a faulty tyre, pulled down by some other driver, a straight on the last lap has happened to all pilots in circulation and by force of circumstances it will happen to him too!!! in any case it's worth making us jump on the sofa again like in the old days!!
From the series:
“We are all sportsmen”,
as long as he wins, it doesn't.
I see it as tough to beat this year's Marquez-Honda duo…..The kid is in very good shape and the bike is a missile, superior to the Yamaha. Only a "rabbit" like Pedrosa was unable to overtake Rossi with a decidedly superior bike. Great Vale……
How much truth in just a few lines.
Pedrosa….. I really thought that this year he would try to do different things than usual (try to win maybe).
In this race, I was convinced that he was saving tire and breath for the last laps, from the pits, with less than 9 to go, I think they gave him the warning to use a more...more mapping (or was it just an invitation to give the max, nin zò), in the end he returned to filming in 1.40.mezzo, but we didn't see even a half-attempt, a convinced approach, a... in short, something that wasn't one of the usual films already seen, branded “Dani..and…The Marquis De Sade, in: the pleasure of being submissive”.
On Sunday I was disappointed with his performance, as soon as he passed Lorenzo I really believed he had taken out the "marbles", but instead he immediately put them back in his pocket for what then? To play with it at home in the evening?
Sorry for the long-winded intervention, but I took advantage of it for a very light outburst.
And go!!!!! away with the insults to those who are not his fans and have never shared his attitudes more than his performances and now let's add that he has also put Lorenzo away... it makes me smile, but did I read it wrong or did he just 16 points more than a Dovizioso on the Ducati that you insult so much???….
He also has 26 more than the much praised Lorenzo.
Aeneas
..and anyway, 16 more in the fourth game, on average, are 72 points at the end of the championship...
…Doesn't it make you think?
A second guide* gives 72 points to the first Ducati guide, despite the latter benefiting from considerable technical "help"...
Meditate go… ;)
*You think.
Aeneas
All this to say that after just one race that objectively went well, shoot now that Lorenzo has been put away!, Marquez will soon be in the sights and his age magically no longer matters and everyone has dreamed of the disappointing years... but it's not a a little early??? at least before saying that he wasn't performing he had always been put behind by Lorenzo except for a couple of races and then the fool in Ducati, with one race you have already made him world champion in 2014....
Since you know how to do the math well, how many are less than Marquez???? as long as Lorenzo makes another mistake at the start or the choice of tire and that Pedrosa wakes up after half the race... meditate meditate
Tony
It's obvious that I need to explain it to you calmly.
My answer, on the kaxxeggio andante, was as stupid as the question you sarcastically (or rather stupidly) asked.
I couldn't and wouldn't want to start a discussion with you, since I consider you little more than a Fatman.
Take care.
Aeneas
@fatman
You see, I can also be wrong or ask a stupid question as you say, it still remains a personal opinion and therefore debatable and can be a starting point for a pleasant discussion, even tough in maintaining positions but always with respect... when a person does not understand this simple rule that is valid in this context but also in everyday life, it means that he hasn't understood much about how one is in the world...hello poor thing
I correct it, it was @enea the poor guy
I never said you were “wrong” for asking a stupid question.
What you post is the result of "biting away", so you can only post stupid things, there is no risk of you being wrong.
You know, in good conscience, that the last of your intentions was to start a calm discussion, so I didn't even try to start it.
Calm discussions never evolved from (deliberately) stupid and sarcastic questions.
You know well that when you really want to chat about motorbikes and riders, here on the blog there will be no shortage of users happy to do so.
Until then, keep on fatmaning, you will only receive applause from people like fatman and deliberately stupid responses from people like me.
Aeneas
just for your information since you brought up the topic in 2012 Rossi on Ducati in the 4th race (in that case the mans) had 42 points..Dovizioso 2014 45...so all in all on a world level the Ducati for now is in line with 2 years does..
Hey!! I've never heard from so many people since certain individuals don't make themselves heard! Finally we talk about how strong Marquez is without hearing bad words about other champions. Dovi comes in fifth/sixth/seventh as this year Bradl comes in behind and Crutchlow has moved to Ducati and is automatically already half burned out. So it is equivalent to a seventh/eighth place from one/two years ago. I've had two Ducatones and I sincerely hope that the brand will recover, but I see it as tough, at least for a couple of years... or if you think about it better, maybe just one because if it changes and the tire supplier changes, anything can happen. Stoner doc.
that's a good one!!!!
this is the proof... Rossi fans popped up like mushrooms just because Rossi came second on four official bikes...
Hey!!!
Finally a poet has arrived!
Dovi seventh/eighth? For me you are wrong.
Dovi tenth/eleventh and whoever has the most….the more, as my friend Paolo Bitta says.
Why don't you add that P.Espargaro is a Rookie, that Smith is an Englishman, that Ducati has an advantage with petrol, that Bautista doesn't have a good Honda and that Iannone stretches out too much?
2 years ago, with a similar performance, it would have come behind at least 3 CRTs, why should I?
I repeat
this is the level of certain reds fans...
they only pop up when he does some good performance…..this has always been the case….
Bibo then the opposite is also true, i.e. that you hide when it's worth it, in fact when the news regarding the race came out only H95RR came to get the fish in the face.
Where were you, oh champion of senseless comments...? :)
Aeneas
Ahahahah "fish in the face" dear Enea, more than fish they were beautiful colored insults, think how they are put and what is the only objective for those who come out of the sewers only when their pilot does well, in any case when the insults or the "fish in my face” they come from miserable people who whether they exist or not makes no difference to me, it's like the air that passes nothing more, imagine how much it affects me.
H
it was just to make bibo understand that if it's true that certain users only come out when it's worth it, it's also true that most of the anti Rossi people hide when it's worth it.
Just look at how much anti-red people commented on the news about the race.
Just you.
Regarding the insults, I repeat that you are no better than them.
Today they insult them, yesterday you did it together with Fátima, and tomorrow if it's worth it it will go badly you'll go back to insulting them again.
You only take turns, but essentially you behave the same way.
Later… ;)
Aeneas
Yes, I understand, I'm not running away or hiding, on the contrary, but if you pay attention to it on Sunday it was a coincidence that in fact there were on Sundays and Mondays if you look you'll see that I'm never or very rarely there.
As for the insults, you offend me a bit because at certain levels I never get there unless they are in response to those they make to me, even look at the new entry all agitated and exalted what a beautiful presentation he gave himself, a sublime excellent CV ahahahahah!
For the future you will see that if they don't bring me up unnecessarily I will continue on the path I have been taking for a few months because that is a useless discussion.
What's up with you lately?
Just got back, your comments had a different approach.
I must say that these speeches disappointed me greatly, but above all, I was somewhat confused in the idea I was forming.
Now we must always be ready every time Vale goes to the podium because, otherwise, it is implied that we want to hide????
For what reason then? For fear of "fish in the face" perhaps?
Honestly, I would eat them, my "girlfriend" is good with fish.
You know perfectly well that if you wanted, fatman would send one of his usual "greetings" (just to cite an example), without any ifs or buts.
Come on Enea, what's wrong with you??
@H Don't worry dearest.. if you disappear no one will regret you :) (excluding the usual 2-3 who want company to insult is valid)
@ligera
Am I wrong or when Rossi doesn't get a good result and Rossi's fans don't comment Fatman and company write "where are you now what's it worth he scored 4?" you'll see at the first opportunity. Points of view
Lightweight
You have few and very confused ideas... ;)
You will not find in any of my comments even a hint about the fact that you disappeared or any spicy comments referring to anyone in particular.
Go to the news and check it out.
Mine was just a response to bibo who (partly rightly) says that when it's good it's good, his fans pop up like mushrooms.
It's partly true, when Rossi performs well there are more fans who comment, it's normal.
At the same time, however, we must admit that when Rossi does well, the anti-Reds disappear, as happened after Jerez.
Just like when anti-reds pop up like mushrooms if red has a bad race.
Very normal situations, I just pointed out this abyss, the fish served to make my statements more cheerful. Nothing more.
Was it enough to disappoint you and make you change your mind about me??? ;)
Aeneas
H
The only contribution of yours to the blog that I remember is made up of ass grabs together with Fatima, Gommizi, uncles, bluffs, farces, etc. etc.
You are the cause of your situation. Resign yourself.
I repeat to you for the umpteenth time: take example from Stonami77.
Now I'm going to run away because one of my women is waiting for me... heheheh :D
Aeneas
PS
H
Obviously I point out that I have nothing against you, I'm just giving you my opinion. ;)
Aeneas
enea "gommizi, uncles, bluffs, farces" are taken for a ride?
NO, they are just personal opinions and beliefs, the same ones that many people have, as for many he is the best of all time for me he is just a good driver but enormously overrated who has been helped a lot to create ratings and business but as a person he is uuuuuuuu lost laser
And what is untouchable?
If you say valebùùù should they shoot you?
Come on Enea, do you see that it's like I say?
No H, rubbers, uncles, farces, bluffs etc etc. IN ADDITION to the bullshit you enjoyed doing with fatman towards other users.
It doesn't matter if they came directly to you, or they came to fatman and you simply laughed at him...
In the post-jerez news for example, in addition to not having personally taken the piss out of you, I didn't even respond to the various durim who did so, to laugh at them, as you always did with fatman.
How many times does fatman bring up shitty people, just to take the piss, and you're always there ready to get together??
I repeat, I don't give a damn about being a dick moralizer, but if you and a few others (Redists included) are always at the center of various squabbles, it's only because before or after sailing you're wanted.
If you are intelligent for a moment then you should choose your arguments well, let me explain:
To believe in the bullshit of rubbers, bluffs, uncles etc etc there are only you and bibo left (not even Fatima believes it, since he only does it to take the piss, but he knows full well that it's bullshit).
So, either you make a private blog between you and bibo, or you resign yourself that with these topics you will get insults from fanatics, and you will simply be ignored by others.
For example, I have nothing against you, but I wouldn't have anything to talk about with you (about MotoGP) if you come with rubbers, uncles, and various shit.
Now I'm off to work...;)
Aeneas
All right, believe what you want, there are no problems, but trust me, it's not what you say and don't be too sure that few people believe in rubber bands, uncles and the other various c@g@ts, I assure you that it's all contrary as I'm sure that he used "dirty stuff" to get him where he got to for all the reasons linked below, it's not an urban legend but there is a lot of evidence that makes it credible, obviously if you want to look not just in one direction.
I once told you to remember on this topic that the altars would pop up after his retirement and I will refresh your memory of this and renew your bet.
And in any case I also have nothing against you of course, these things are nonsense I don't make it a personal question of life or death at durim & c.
I greet you next time.
Bibo, many world champions have reiterated the greatness of his talent.
With help you can win a world championship like Hayden, not what he won is valid in 5 different categories with three different brands.
I investigated the matter for a long time... I supported Biaggi, and I would have liked to be able to find some dirt on the guy who demolished my max.
The best drivers always have the best material, see marq, but the rest is metropolitan crap.
When pilots retire they always have a lot of things to do... They're out now...
Two-time 500 world champion:
“You see Rossi racing and you're watching history being made. He is 20 – 30 percent higher than the other drivers, which is absolutely impressive at this level of competition.”
“In motorcycle racing of my time, Rossi is certainly the greatest rider I have ever seen.”
Michael Doohan: in 2002
“Rossi will win this championship through his consistency. “One of Valentino's strengths is that he is consistent for the entire 50 minutes in each race and if there is a challenge he responds immediately.
Even if he qualifies on the second or third row on the fastest tracks, he prevails due to his consistency, which other drivers don't have."
http://motograndprix.motorionline.com/2004/04/21/anche-wayne-gardner-consacra-valentino-rossi/
Now tell me that you know more than them, that they sold out.
Read Edwards' latest interview, someone who has never minced his words.
You're basing this on a complaint from melanders.
He didn't have the best material because it wasn't the best. Point.
Or the bullshit of the director of an Italian magazine who would say anything stupid to make money.
Did they give the rubber to Qatar again this year????
H, what I can't stand is that you are not satisfied with his bad period in the ducats, but you have to give up everything, past, present and future.
If you want, continue with these arguments. But resign yourself to the insults of the fanatics, and the silence from the non-fanatics.
You will console yourself just with a few jokes from bibo and ftman, who incidentally doesn't even believe in your theories... ;) Fatman is an idiot, but he's not naive.... ;)
Aeneas
H, many world champions have reiterated the greatness of Vale.
With help you can win a world championship like Hayden, not what he won is valid in 5 different categories with three different brands.
I investigated the matter for a long time... I supported Biaggi, and I would have liked to be able to find some dirt on the guy who demolished my max.
The best drivers always have the best material, see marq, but the rest is metropolitan crap.
When pilots retire they always have a lot of things to do... They're out now...
Two-time 500 world champion:
“You see Rossi racing and you're watching history being made. He is 20 – 30 percent higher than the other drivers, which is absolutely impressive at this level of competition.”
“In motorcycle racing of my time, Rossi is certainly the greatest rider I have ever seen.”
Michael Doohan: in 2002
“Rossi will win this championship through his consistency. “One of Valentino's strengths is that he is consistent for the entire 50 minutes in each race and if there is a challenge he responds immediately.
Even if he qualifies on the second or third row on the fastest tracks, he prevails due to his consistency, which other drivers don't have."
http://motograndprix.motorionline.com/2004/04/21/anche-wayne-gardner-consacra-valentino-rossi/
Now tell me that you know more than them, that they sold out.
Read Edwards' latest interview, someone who has never minced his words.
You're basing this on a complaint from melanders.
He didn't have the best material because it wasn't the best. Point.
Or the bullshit of the director of an Italian magazine who would say any minkiat@ just to make money.
Did they give the rubber to Qatar again this year????
H, what I can't stand is that you are not satisfied with his bad period in the ducati, but you have to forget everything, past, present and future.
If you want, continue with these arguments. But resign yourself to the insults of the fanatics, and the silence from the non-fanatics.
You will console yourself just with a few jokes from bibo and ftman, who incidentally doesn't even believe in your theories... ;) Fatman is an idiot, but he's not naive.... ;)
Aeneas
X aeneas
See, you still do it.
It's not for a specific comment, but for a whole series of your interventions.
It's your kind of approach that leaves me confused (as well as disappointed).
As soon as you started again, your comments were focused on motorbikes, riders, races, in short, you were talking about sport.
Lately, however, you've been getting very personal and certain quotes like, for example, the one you made in response to my post:
“You have few and very confused ideas… ;)”, are personal and not at all pleasant.
The final smileys have no value (for me) and the words you used certainly do not serve to set up a serious and calm discussion.
Is it clearer to you why I spoke?
It didn't change my mind about you, but this change of direction left me dumbfounded.
Furthermore (and I finally conclude), to you it may seem like something of little importance (which is why getting personal never leads you to know how the thing will end), but "personally" in fact, I believe that interventions that deviate too much from the topic sporting, affecting the "personal sphere" of the interlocutor, they don't have a great effect, if you understand what I'm referring to.
X aeneas
I have another thing to clarify about rubbers and so on, but having the terrible habit of being too verbose, I wrote my post at the end, so as not to be too thin and long.
It will be a challenge to read and I understand if you gloss over it.
Ultimately, these are things that I think, but for which I can hardly list the evidence.
beat Marquez? hihi...but if with two more curves you arrived second to last...thank the rubber!
Well done gigetto, you said it right, you know if he's not competitive he's declared that he's retiring, imagine the shock for his uncle and above all skyfo it's logical that they do something to keep him at least for a couple more years, right?
I've been mentioning this for months, ahahahahaha how it annoys me sometimes to always be right!
what the hell are you saying enea???
I write wherever I want, I'm not obliged to write everywhere...
As for disappearing, you know something about it, you haven't been seen for a while...
then I wasn't referring to you, but to many people who had never posted anything until now....
Bibo
But is it possible that the concept is so difficult!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
You accuse Rossi fans of only coming out when Rossi is good, I tell you that you do the same, come out when it's worth it, it's bad, and you disappear when it's worth it, it's good.
What do you find difficult?
Aeneas
sorry enea
the concept is simple, but it is not applicable!!!!
I almost always write
I recently participated very little for 2 reasons: work problems
virus problems on the pc
Having said this, I think you noticed it too
that there are people who didn't make themselves heard before...
do you find it so difficult to understand??
:-)
But in fact I agree with you, many redheads are only appearing now...!! ;)
For the sake of objectivity, however, you should also point out how many anti-reds disappeared after Jerez...! ;)
You may have had to work, I obviously believe you, but what about everyone else??
I never disputed your point, just that you left out the other side of the coin... ;)
Aeneas
to tell the truth (unfortunately)
Only one is missing!!!!
FATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COME BACK TO US!!!!!!!
:-)
Don't worry, he's fine, I heard from him the day before yesterday.
At the moment he is away for personal reasons but nothing to worry about.
How cute haha!
also because I'm a little worried, it's not like him!!!!!!
check better… ;)
Aeneas
What Vale has won is there for all to see and in the anals of this sport.
That he was the strongest of his time cannot be doubted.
Unfortunately it is also true that, at a certain point in history, unclear situations occurred, some of which were not at all legitimate and which undoubtedly changed his career.
They certainly contributed to the creation of the Rossi "myth", taking advantage of the popularity and sympathy that Vale earned.
I won't list the positive things that can be attributed to Vale, you've already thought of that, I'll just mention what, in a way that isn't always legitimate, has contributed to the Italian's dazzling career.
2000
His debut in 500 was facilitated by the absence of real champions riding the Honda.
Vale was able to benefit from a team completely focused on him including the development of the Honda factory.
I want to clarify that there is nothing illegal, but only that the period of Vale's arrival coincided with the absence of prominent personalities on Honda who facilitated his rise, also deserved by the results obtained.
There were 3 official manufacturers, 6 factory bikes
Valentino's rivals (at the time) certainly cannot be compared to his current ones.
Riders with customer bikes were able to show off, precisely due to the absence of prominent riders in the official manufacturers.
Biaggi was the only one who created some minimal problems for Vale in the first years of his career, but he was still limited both by his speed (less than Vale's) and by the quality of the bike (Yamaha Vs Honda).
2002
The first real "political" facilitation occurred in the year of the transition from 500 to MotoGP.
Honda managed to get the epochal change approved in record time, which caught its rivals substantially unprepared, while Honda was already a year ahead with development.
2003 / 2004?
The arrival of Bridgestone, their competitiveness, even if limited to a small number of tracks, forced Michelin to undertake a path that led to the development of the tyre, trying to invest an acceptable sum, while the Giappys, who had just arrived, to to find "space" they developed at full speed without paying attention to the dollar, having to create a market.
Part of the development of the Mich, proven by the admission of an important figure within the Mich itself, was focused on the research of the necessary technology to be able to have "dedicated" tires, suitable for the type of asphalt and the temperature in which that particular one would be competed. GP.
Already in 2005 Max Biaggi made several generic allusions to the problem and in response, he was removed from MotoGP.
In 2006 this became too evident and in order not to cause a real uproar to "erupt",
since 2007 Michelin could no longer use this approach to racing and this technology.
2009?
Michelin, now too far from the performance of Japanese tires (it would have taken a few years to catch up), saw all the prominent figures who adopted their tires move away and withdrew from competitions.
From here I take inspiration to insert another step, not exactly clear in Vale's career.
B. gave a negative opinion for Vale's passage, then, due to the good word of someone (was it Ezpeleta??), he was also given tires and, for him too, a tire was developed that adapted to the motorcycle, all in a very short time (we are in 2008).
It should be added that Vale became a point of reference for tire development, not just an image man (but I'm not really sure about this).
I remember that, even in 2008, Ducati and Stoner above all, still gave Vale a lot of trouble, but from the following year things changed a lot at a regulatory level, forcing Ducati to radically change the engine's fuel supply and, if I'm not mistaken, the Ducati's great speed began to be the prerogative of other motorcycles.
2011
We arrive at the period of the Ducati "arranged marriage".
Ducati was already in crisis, partly with results, partly with Stoner.
Vale came from 2 consecutive world championships (2008 – 2009) and lost the 3rd (it was thought) due to the disastrous fall.
In Ducati Vale had "carte blanche" (Del Torchio is the signature of this great idea, assisted by a little person still in Ducati), that is, he could make any request relating to the development of the motorcycle.
The confusion arises when the rider (but in our specific case I am more inclined towards Burgess's intervention), does not limit himself to indicating the problem he finds in the motorbike, but indicates how and where to modify the motorbike, thus risking uncompensating the project (as in fact happened).
In this period, very...strange modifications were implemented, such as, for example, the weighting of the crankshaft to make the motorbike more usable, thus sacrificing the qualities of the motorbike, to obtain a minimal advantage in riding sensations.
In 2 years with Ducati, he stubbornly refused to change his riding style (which he promptly did this year), forcing the engineers to review practically everything about the bike, even the frame which changed to being made of aluminium, even after noticing that it didn't bring any kind of improvement.
To make a long story short, 2 things were clearly seen in Ducati.
The first is that Vale's potential was not even close to that of Stoner, but above all, it was seen that he was not significantly stronger than Hayden, which called into question many things about Vale himself.
The second, is that the myth of Vale as a "developer" has proven to be a sensational bluff.
The pantomime that began in mid-2011 and ended with his farewell to Ducati was something I had rarely seen in motorcycling, Valentino did everything possible and impossible to shift all responsibility onto the designer (in fact Preziosi was practically forced to abandon himself) , categorically rejecting any responsibility for the situation created.
2013
Having moved to Yamaha exclusively for the good relationships with Ezpeleta and for his innate ability to make "cash" (see fans), he had a very unexciting year and, instead of taking on his responsibilities, he found nothing better to do than fire Burgess also achieving the aim of making people understand what the bad year had depended on.
2014
This year, which few say, Vale has finally changed his riding style and things have improved.
So we have to ask ourselves why he didn't change his style sooner, was it arrogance (at this point I feel like saying this)?
It is now losing credibility and must work hard to regain it. Orima was too "full of himself" to be able to admit that the poor performance depended on him and not "exclusively" on the bike or the technician.
Vale was the strongest driver of his era, but one has to wonder when his era "ended" because more or less veiled and more or less legitimate aid brought him to the threshold of 35 years.
How would his career have gone without the "concessions" from which he benefited, like the vast majority of all other drivers?
You wrote 100 thousand things and I'm not going to answer everything, things from 14 years ago.
Moving on to recent things, firing Burgess was a winning move. Rossi at 35 was still motivated, Burgess was not. And his improvement is also thanks to the new crew chief. Last year he was close to Lorenzo in FP1, then the others improved by 1 second and he improved by 3 tenths..this year Rossi is ahead since free practice..he improves test after test, and also finds less difficulty than Lorenzo when setting up the motorbike. Firing Burgess was a WINNING move, the results prove it.
For everything else dear ligera.. you said it a few posts above with this sentence "Ultimately these are things that I think, but for which I can hardly list the proof"
These are things you think, for which you can hardly list the evidence. What's the point of talking about it then? :) Hellooo
@Ligera
But… 2 million. of words to express nothingness?
Or rather the usual hackneyed speech ostentatious just to write something and justify the dislike regardless of the person/character you don't like?
Next time, please summarize in 10/15 lines since we already know your broken record...
But you deserve a dispassionate compliment: you know grammar.
Even though I don't share your points of view in the slightest, I recognize that you know how to express yourself correctly.