MotoGP: Honda RC213V, more power for the title defense
An interesting comparison between the various Honda MotoGP bikes
di Alessio Brunori30 May, 2012
Honda returned to win a world championship last year thanks to Casey Stoner, a true star of the season. 2011 was the last year of the 800cc, this year in fact we returned to the 1000cc, more powerful and more powerful bikes than the 800. Below is an interesting comparison between the various Hondas of past years and the RC213V that they ride this year year Stoner and Pedrosa.
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Yamaha are the best at the moment and in terms of power they don't seem inferior to Honda.
remove Lorenzo and then tell me where the other Yamahas are...
Dovizioso and Crutchlow are fast and if Spies woke up his Yamaha would also be there in front.
I'll tell you right away, usually it's 4 and 5... well it's clearly in crisis, I wouldn't take it as a reference for the bike. don't take as a reference the only motorbike that doesn't run.
then from here to say that it is superior to the Honda no. they are certainly very similar honda is more powerful yamaha more manageable then there are differences in the work with the tyres, however they are quite similar perhaps yamaha is slightly better placed due to a better balance, but I underline the perhaps, because a lot also depends on the track
With the new anti-Honda rubbers Lorenzo will feel great!
In my opinion the best bike is the Honda, after Stoner and Lorenzo there is Pedrosa with the other Honda.
Japanese designers are reckless! they are so too powerful to exploit their pilots to suicide!
I don't understand suicide but if you mean they play with the pilots' lives I agree
Hi reader, I believe that in motorcycle and car sports of that performance, everyone, both the driver and the designer, is aware of the risks and then with more power perhaps they mean better delivery over the entire range of use without losing high as usually happens when you improve the delivery at the bottom, it doesn't necessarily mean you go faster, I think.
@h954rr
you're right it could be a performance improvement in terms of power efficiency... in the end you can have the most powerful engine but if you don't manage it... what can you ask ducati
You're not OK ??
go and get *********
To the boss:…..on average in these first GPs held since the beginning of the year, the Yamahas at the finish line are 3 in the top 5.
Having said that, my dear “forum boss”…..from 2011 to today, remove Casey Stoner and see where the Hondas would be…………oops!! behind the Yamahas with Lorenzo, 2011 world champion and...following!!
In my opinion, Honda and Yamaha are more or less on the same level, one has more engine (Honda) but is grumpy in everything and only one manages to bring it ahead of everyone and the other (Yamaha) has much more chassis even if it has an engine. there is a little something missing in comparison but overall we see Yamaha more ahead in terms of number of riders and perhaps overall it is a bit better and we take into account that with the "wild" engine like the RCV the tires go away sooner and it takes someone out of class like Casey to finish the race with finished tires and with those power levels.
Do you want to see that Honda is already preparing the bike for the next arrival of the reds?
I would be willing to bet that if he returns to the red Honda, as if by magic the right tires will arrive and the chatter will disappear from the bike, can you bet?
Could it be a coincidence?
Then they will shout about the yellow miracle, I can already laugh at the thought of whether it will be like this.
Ah I forgot, they will compare the times with Casey and if he went faster they will say he is the best, ah ah ah!!!
apart from the tires it could be very easy for the reds to join the honda
Remember what I wrote in this post and you'll see if next year it won't be like this, get ready for the shit that will happen, bye.
Of course, looking at even just a small piece of the bike (photo in the article), noticing the details of the details, even just the precision of the curves of the exhausts, you can see the obsessive difference in how well Honda motorcycles are made compared to others.
Truly remarkable!
Since you predict the future
Stoner should quit
Who do you support next year?
Are you rooting for the show?
if so you must also support (but not only if you want) Rossi..
I can see you cheering against it though
like you could support Lorenzo
on the contrary
you could support whoever wins as long as it's not Rossi
together with Fantomas
then you could present yourself at the elections with a new party:
“shit-throwing party.”
H954RR is right... it's worth the next few years he will win again... he's a character and people want to see the painful skits at the end of the race again, when he mocks his opponents and says it's the Fan Club that wants him... it's a shame he's no longer there Michelin who supplied him with tailor-made tires on Saturday mornings, otherwise he would have won his 12 world championships, he would have surpassed Agostini in terms of number of victories and we would have gotten him out of the way, maybe he would have gone to F1... now for another 4 or 5 years not Nobody will take it away from us...did you notice the satisfied face he had after the announcement given to the press by Stoner?...He couldn't wait...it means that if he doesn't win with the DucaJap gP12.5.3 Rev. 4/bis he will go at Honda...on the other hand, Stoner only won 23 races with the "primitive" bike...but he didn't understand anything about motorbikes, he got on it and gave it the gas...what disgusting!!!...Do you want to put Vale's working methodology? %5 different bikes and 2 podiums in 2 years...a true phenomenon...he deserves all the 15 million salary!!!
And what will you do?
who will you support?
will you cry in a corner thinking about Casey?
poor fatman
all afraid that Rossi will win
dry lagoon fatman
not the future but the past..
LAGUNA SECA DO YOU REMEMBER?
I don't support one in particular... I don't like some of them but I don't pay too much attention to it... the wheel turns anyway, look at Valentino... do you remember Barcelona 2007?... How come you "red supporters" only remember what's convenient for you? …Do you remember the world championship in four races with Barros who won one more than reds with the same bike?…Do you remember that Ukawa also hit him a couple of times with the same bike (Honda 2002)?…Maybe six too young and too much of a fan to remember... but it doesn't matter, I'm enjoying the moment... which I hope will last a very long time... anyway it should rain in Barcelona... if he doesn't fall he'll have a great race... and then return to anonymity ah, ah! !!
Laguna Seca, a clear episode of recklessness and incorrectness... how can you forget?
@fatman
don't worry, they don't remember because I don't even know if they watch the races... and they only get information through the newspapers... I say this because unfortunately many times I've seen people get excited about Valentino for his friendliness (personally I call them theatrics) but then they didn't watch not even the departure or anything else.
How do you know they don't follow? simple from the sole fact that for them there is only Valentine and only Valentine's Day emotions.
if you then ask valentino fans who have followed motogp for years and are no longer interested in valentino about the sport itself, they remember everything and know how to recognize that other riders also provide emotions.
Fatman mine below was in your response, I don't know why it finished last.
Hello.
Hi everyone. guys remember that without motorcycle walls with updates only for him and tailor-made tires the doctor has become a nurse running after others... but you have eyes.... Rossi is a champion but a little too overrated... with Ukawa Barros and Gibernau who had never won a championship before having a similar bike it was easy to win. let it be clear that I believe that even the last one on the grid is a phenomenon, so I don't want to offend any driver. but Rossi against Stoner and Lorenzo would have little to do without help. and the numbers from 2007 to today prove you are right, you have two boys.
This isn't about predicting the future as some people tell me but it's something that has been happening for years now and it has become too easy to predict how things will turn out for the most popular and most requested driver by the masses not to let it slip away and continue doing money especially now, that's all, even if giving him the advantage to win again could be a double-edged sword for his uncle, I remember that Rossi declared that when he wins his tenth title he might think about retiring, do you know how desperate it is for his uncle?
For me Casey is unique and he is head and shoulders above everyone else and he has already amply demonstrated it, for next year I will support Lorenzo, on the other hand I have always said that via Casey he is the other 90 handler.
I agree...Stoner reminds me of Spencer, even with more talent...Freddie also ran away immediately, he was immediately very fast right from the tests, he changed the way all the drivers drove...and he too didn't last long, even if then in 1989 and ' came back making a fool of himself... I hope Stoner doesn't make the same mistake... let's leave the fools alone!!!
I agree with you Fatman, but the other two were also 90 handles.
Casey's sin is that they gave him the bike that was up to him too late and also because he retired too soon otherwise I'm convinced that he would have broken all the records and given all his rivals toothache.
Do you know that I don't think Casey would look bad if he came back?
His talent is quite a bit ahead of his current competition, with the only exception being Jorge and we'll see about future new arrivals like Marquez but in any case I think Casey would have a lot to say.
guys, there isn't anyone who drives like that and there never can be... but do you remember the big bend in Estoril at 250mph on the curb, skidding for all the laps... in spite of those who said that he managed to win because 'he trusted electronics more than anyone. now that everyone knows that he is the one who uses it the least, they are attacking the non-existent in order to criticize him.
Look at them
Chip and Dale
they tell it and laugh about it themselves...
...we are in a position to be able to do it...when it's worth it he'll win you can talk, now come on...I'm dismayed...I'm very sorry...etc. etc.
it is enough for you?
when will Vale win?
have you ever heard of someone from Tavullia who won everything?
yes come on if you think about it it comes to mind..
the strongest of all time
it is not difficult
you can do it
come on, I'll give you a hand: it's not Biaggi
@zukki
I can tell you know about motorbikes, huh?
if you even made jokes because you have no evidence to argue with
on the greatest of all time? there is no such thing as the strongest rider ever, there are only riders a cut above the others who race with them
Look, I'll tell you calmly, do you know what your problem is?
It's just that we look at motorbikes out of passion, at the most we get excited about legendary acts, you look at them as ultras with the difference that it gives us pleasure and you want humiliation for all the other riders if your idol wins and provokes your instincts of war and a lot of nerves when he loses and with those who don't sympathize with him.
So say what you want but for the yellows (I don't mean the reds fans but the "fanatic extremists") from the stadium like you I don't care in the slightest what you say and think.
Hello.
why have you ever heard me talk about Stoner?
have you ever heard me speak badly of Lorenzo?
No.
May
because I respect them
It's you and 4 other smart guys who always throw mud at Rossi
“They'll make the tires for him on purpose”
“they will give him the Honda to make him win”
but stay calm!
cheer and ditch Rossi!
YOU ARE THE TALIBANS!!
@zucchi
Have we ever insulted you?
you call us Taliban... the fact that only an ultra considers the doubts of others as a personal insult
Hello reader, welcome back!
Taliban = ultras
it's not an offense
in an article that talks about Honda we always have to bring up Valentino
you are fixed and discounted
@h954rr
thank you!!!
sorry for the absence not for long come on ;) but I was busy in the post Monte Carlo in F1
and above all I was busy looking for work since I lost quite a few due to the loss of a tender... not that I've already found it but now I'm waiting for the answers
exact
well done WLF!
the corkscrew overtaking has already gone down in the annals as one of the worst overtakings of all time
on the contrary
also as one of the most incorrect!
PS: Does WLF stand for “long live the fi..”?
great WLF! another expert!
Fantomas you're missing out here!
H954RR reply now!
I think someone who has the courage to talk about the corkscrew understands very little about motorbikes, sorry if I dare. according to the regulations, if you overtake off the track and when returning you obstruct your rival you must give back the position... but the regulations are not the same for everyone... I remind you that in the first year of 4-stroke, when your god had already won the world championship and in the team he didn't there were more team orders he complained about poor ukawa who had to act as his lapdog all season for having stolen a victory from him with incorrect overtaking, which no one saw... not to mention the brake lever stuck in his shoulder of Gibernau complete with going off the track... and lastly the words thrown at poor Barbera just because he was in front of him... but I repeat, those who support Rossi cannot know the regulations, as they are tailor-made for them. anyway, it's you fans who make him hate you because you have zero objectivity...
sorry but I wanted to ask you a question... but it's no coincidence that until yesterday you signed with another name... the way you warm up and write reminds me of someone... it's just a question without provocation.
X Zukki ... apart from Max in the last 2 years he has won more than Vale and this disturbs him a lot (words of Vale), even more than the title of Jorge ... I am happy that he speaks to the next past because the future is of Jorge and Marquez…provided it doesn't rain!!! As a sportsman I can tell you that for the Barcelona race I will give credit to second place in the Fantamotogp, it should rain... will these be your last tears? Hello, sportsmen ah, ah!!!
…and then the strongest of all time according to those who understand and remember (or have lived through) the various eras was Hailwood…
I agree with Fatman, he was the strongest rider ever
mike the bike!!!!
ps of course Saarinen was no exception too (ask ago)
I CONFIRM THAT ROSSI IS ALWAYS SUPPORTED WITH THE SPECIAL TIRES
I CONFIRM THAT ROSSI HAS ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORTED WITH SPECIAL RUBBERS