MotoGP: Ducati takes out Filippo Preziosi
Thus began the revolution in the Ducati racing department
Filippo Preziosi is no longer the technical manager of the Ducati MotoGP project. This is the "shocking" news reported by Motosprint.it signed by Enrico Borghi. The new owners, Audi, would have made this decision.
As reported by Motosprint, Audi is also working on an alternative project to the one carried out by Preziosi. In fact, Suter would have been commissioned to produce a new frame, an alternative frame to the one designed by the now former head of the MotoGP project.
With Rossi out of Ducati, Preziosi's "expulsion" was not a given; In fact, there hadn't been a great feeling between the two and the departure of the Pesaro man towards Yamaha seemed to let this idea decay.
However, the Germans invested a lot in the Ducati MotoGP project and this was a first step towards the future. The Eng. Perugino could remain in Ducati, but not in the racing department where he has always worked, carrying out both the Superbike and MotoGP projects. However, the news has not been made official by Ducati, a press release is expected in this regard.
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This news is from April 1st.
put around by moto.it of course
Well…, to be honest, it doesn't seem right to me that he should be kicked out.
Flanked by trusted Audi engineers, ok, partially review Filippo's ideas with a broader vision, ok, remove him from office and from the Racing Team, no, also because it's his life...
I sincerely hope it's a newsagent hoax, it wouldn't be the first time, even if today, on Italia2... Filippo neither confirmed nor denied...
Whether it's his life has nothing to do with it, it's certainly not for charity that they have to keep him but certainly for his undisputed abilities
Agreed though…
I would give him another chance.
In a team made up of several engineers perhaps, but I wouldn't relieve him of his duties entirely.
Questionable opinion, but I believe there is also some good in his project.
By "it's his life" I meant that when an engineer puts in the passion, dedication and stubbornness that he put in... you can't remove it.
If anything... starting tomorrow we'll sit down, dear Filippo,... and review what's wrong with a more open mind.
The Germans have a great advantage, which is also a flaw by taking the concept to the extreme: only the facts count, either black or white.
Sometimes…, there are also shades of gray that help find solutions.
However, we need to have a 360° open mind and question everything and its opposite.
Said by F. Preziosi: “I know very well that Valentino has enormous value for us, because he is very precise in his indications, but I also understood that this is the last part of his sporting career and I understand why he made his decision and I wasn't that surprised when he told me his decision."
Audi is undergoing a restyling at Ducati. We hope it benefits the prestigious house of B.go Panigale.
VALENCIA – We are changing, radically. After two devastating years from a competitive point of view, Ducati - or rather, Audi, the new owner of the Borgo Panigale company - has decided that it can no longer go on like this, that the project needs to be completely revised. And, in these cases, if it is believed that the project is wrong, it would be the project manager who would pay, therefore engineer Filippo Preziosi.
source http://www.moto.it
@Ultimo1966
Hi, I'm talking about today during rehearsals; maybe I misunderstood but the two questions asked by Meda (I don't remember if Beltramo was in the pits) were: 1) the news is circulating that something will change in the role between you and Reparto Corse and he replied... when the time comes we will know 2) what you think of Vale at the end of the season and he replied if we will talk about it again once the relationship is over.
Maybe I missed other sentences because I was on the phone...
I support Preziosi for the following reason:
I read an interesting article some time ago on Motocorse.com (Closed for inventory) where they talked about the role that Audi would have had in the delay of the GP12 development.
At the beginning of the year they would have frozen everything that fell under the item "spending" to check the accounts before spending €830 million.
Without taking away the responsibilities of Rossi, Preziosi, Guareschi in the right percentages..., this year a tenth of what could have been done was done and the big blame could lie with the new ownership.
I was one of those who considered Filippo incompetent, after reading the article I changed my mind.
I'm not saying that your project is 100% right, that it can't be revised but... if in the end you freeze my budget, what will I work on?
For those who want to read the article…
http://manziana.motocorse.com/blog/32843_Chiuso_per_inventario.php
right that it should be put aside.
Ducati has progressively increased the gap over the years. now either we change or we go ridiculous.
apart from Valentino this year zero podiums.
I'm also a Ducati fan, I would have liked at least one victory (hyden will either barberà or whatever it is).
In addition to "fitting" people and roles, in my opinion it would be good for Audi/Ducati to seriously turn its attention to the MotoGP engine, switching from mechanical desmodromic distribution to (perhaps also desmodromic) pneumatic/electronic distribution with variable lift and angles.
From a marketing point of view we could always talk about Desmosedici Elettropneumatica, especially when the expected results arrive.
Desmopneumatic mhmm interesting ..:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))
But hadn't Preziosi asked Furusawa to help him?
I think they did a great job in removing technical responsibility from someone who doesn't know what to do, but above all has responsibility for a motorbike that no one knows how to ride.
Don't start with "if Stoner was there" because he retired and in any case a MotoGP must be within the reach of all riders, which this one really isn't.
@clay
Not to continue to defend Preziosi, it may be that at a certain point he wanted to consult with Furusawa to understand, from another point of view, how to improve the bike. Who better at this point than Furusawa, who said... if Ducati listens to Vale 100% will Ducati be dangerous in the future?
Therefore I have more than one doubt that the problem was Audi with its out-outs.
Aside from the jokes I also made at the time, about the contact between Preziosi and Furusawa, however... it's honorable for me to ask you for an opinion if I have doubts. Your opinion, and therefore different point of view, can give me a solution where I would not have been able to arrive alone. Without taking anything away from my value.
I also agree that the engine can be revised for many reasons.
Layman on the subject but this article can also enlighten.
http://manziana.motocorse.com/blog/32888_I_desmo_perche.php
Did you by any chance discover the website of the good Manziana from Malaga today? :)
Excellent site for technical information, it's one of many that I follow...
Put it among the “good sites” if you are interested in the technique…
Easy to understand articles, well structured and very, very well written.
I'm happy that others after me bring technical ideas. But if you want some advice: FORGET IT! On this site it is a waste of time (due to some elements).
I know many other sites with a slightly more advanced technique, however, and they are mostly in English.
@bcs
Hi, I discovered it this summer through a blog user (Mefistio).
I complimented him doubly because, despite not being a Vale fan, he introduced me to a site of technical articles that was impartial in its considerations.
I often go to read and reread MAnziana's articles (in blog veritas), I like his articles: impartial and technical.
It's already among the favorites on the PC :-) :-)
@bcs
Can you tell me about any other technical sites "in Italian"?
For some users… what do you want to do about it?
It's like the story of relatives...: you find them, you can't choose them. ;-) ;-)
You would do me a great favor if you point me to some Italian technical sites...
Thank you ;-) ;-)
There are few sites that talk about technique, even fewer if Italian….
They are updated 1 time a month (if all goes well). This is because NOBODY or at least FEW follow the TECHNIQUE...
I advise you to continue following Manziana.
In Italy there is practically no site worthy of note, except Manziana.
You can find some site that EVERY TIME brings out a technical article.
My technical information is due to the work I do, the sites help but not completely, sometimes a lot of rubbish is written...
Speech relatives…
I personally chose the waistbands for myself and kept the "good" ones. Her life choices.
lyon……
we just put a stop to it….
@Bibo
See, I'm glad you clarified :-)
I think it's nice for everyone...
I would like to speak out a little, if you allow me without lynching me.
I disagree that Preziosi should not have been removed.
Or rather, if we follow a logic from a human point of view perhaps.
But if we follow a purely corporate logic (and we know that companies have nothing human about them) the decision was predictable, makes sense and – PERHAPS – even right.
I'll explain my point of view:
1. Preziosi is at the head of a project that is in any case a failure, because Rossi.or.not.Rossi, are Ducati's results in MotoGP the same as they have been for years now, Rossi boiled? But it's not that Hayden is ahead of him, yet he is also a World Champion in the specialty. Not to mention that Ducati has also lost its old supremacy in SBK.
It may be that he has nothing to do with all this, but being the head of the Racing Department we are certainly talking about "objective" if not "subjective" responsibility.
2. If Audi blocked his budget this year, it did so rightfully as the new majority shareholder and DEFINITELY because they had already decided before even buying Ducati which heads they would cut. So much so that Rossi, at the time of negotiations with Audi to stay in Ducati, very subtly made it clear that there would be a revolution in the technical department.
So, ultimately, I don't understand all this amazement over Preziosi's removal from his position: how is it possible to remain speechless in the face of a decision of this type by Audi? There are football, basketball, swimming coaches etc etc who are replaced for much, much less and even in the presence of better objective results than those obtained by Preziosi in recent years.
To be honest, the opposite would have surprised me.
Usually the saying is: YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE TEAM THAT WINS!
And not: the team that loses is kept to see if sooner or later it manages to win….
@W_il_Sic
Hi :-) reading your post I agree with everything.
Corporately speaking, I don't discuss a single comma.
The only thing that gives me doubts... if you don't put petrol in the tank the bike won't start...
If the budget is frozen, the bike cannot be developed…
Beyond the value of Filippo, Vale and the potential of the GP12.
Perhaps, as you rightly say, we are talking about the Company and corporately we need to make decisions (lovely ones) and instead I also looked at the human side as well as casting doubt on the actual 2012 investment.
Hi Lyon,
I agree with you on the fact that "without fodder the horse doesn't pull" but, I repeat, if they eliminated his budget at the beginning of the year it is because they had already decided that it was useless to invest in a project that was going nowhere given , in addition to Rossi, also the previous years in which even “The only one capable of making the aDucati win was increasingly in trouble and CERTAINLY NOT HIS FAULT!!!!!!
Trust me, they already knew in Audi that at the end of the season the Ducati and related racing management would be sent home, and not for this season's results, but for those of the previous 9 seasons (minus one).
If Valentino does much better in Tuesday's tests, Ducati comes out with broken bones, and Audi knows this very well, after all they bought Ducati to sell top bikes and not wrecks, and this time their image is in pieces.
So right or not, it is better to sacrifice Preziosi and put all the blame on him, and not on the Ducati company.
Of course: I'll also post an article by Giornale Motori and its commentators regarding the rumors about Ducati-Preziosi.
Usually they are not very kind towards Rossi and defend Ducati to the bitter end.
http://www.giornalemotori.newnotizie.it/2012/11/10/audi-rivoluziona-ducati-via-ling-preziosi-spazio-ad-un-nuovo-progetto/comment-page-1/#comment-52364