MotoGP: Lorenzo extends his lead in the standings, Ezpeleta cancels the rookie rule, Rossi-Ducati end of story?
There are three main pieces of news from the MotoGP Silverstone Grand Prix
The Silverstone Grand Prix weekend tells us three things: one is the serious mortgage that Jorge Lorenzo is putting on the title, the second is the black crisis between Rossi and Ducati and third is that for the first time Ezpeleta has said publicly that the rookie rule will be abolished.
Jorge Lorenzo kept his promise: he stated after the renewal with Yamaha that he would try to repay the Japanese for the trust they had in him right from the start. The Majorcan remained far from the top all weekend and even in the race in the first laps he was 5th behind the leaders, but then halfway through the race he started a crazy comeback, catching up with the group and going to catch Stoner who had attempted a mini escape. After a couple of laps glued to the Australian's bike, Lorenzo passed him, flying towards his fourth victory of this year and increasing his lead over Stoner to 25 points. Considering that Since he announced his intention to retire, Casey seems to be giving 99% and no longer 100%., it might not be enough against such a fit Lorenzo.
Valentino Rossi experienced yet another forgettable weekend here at Silverstone: the Pesaro driver, except for the free practice session held in the rain on Friday, it was consistently the last of the prototype bikes and in the race he avoided this shame only thanks to the overtaking he made on Barberà halfway through the race. Valentino as usual stated that the main problem is the poor grip at the front which leads him to corner badly and waste time. The dramatic thing is that this problem occurs on all circuits without being able to understand why and how to solve it. Ducati's superficial declarations say that renewing with Rossi is the absolute priority, but then on Saturday, immediately after Rossi's terrible fall, the team manager, Vittoriano Guareschi, immediately stated that Nicky had not crashed (which was then denied after a few minutes with a photocopy of the American's fall), this sentence makes it clear that now in the top this blind trust in Rossi no longer exists. At the end of the race, a resigned Rossi clearly stated that the priority before renewing the contract is the competitiveness of the bike, something which currently seems like an unattainable chimera and which pushes more and more for the return of the Pesaro rider on a Jap.
What Rossi's bike will be remains a complicated matter, as the two official teams of Honda and Yamaha are increasingly taking shape for 2013: after Lorenzo's renewal, the news also arrived this weekend that the rookie rule will be cancelled, which means only one thing: HRC will be able to hire Marc Marquez next year. The news, which had been in the air for some time, was confirmed directly by Carmelo Ezpeleta who said that that rule made sense years ago when there were 20 prototypes on the track and no longer now that there are only 12 left and therefore the young Moto2 champions either go to an official team or on a Crt, This prospect, however, is not attractive at all ambitious riders like the champions of the lower category of MotoGP.
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Marc, be careful, your uncle will burn you…
For Rossi the only forced choice will be to go to SBK, now he has an excuse to be able to move, because there are no longer any official bikes available and then it is much better to go to the emerging category and where there is show…
never in sbk! he would ruin it with his train of stadium fans!
yes, in fact strange cases football fans offend and badmouth a team even when it is not mentioned, coincidentally it is the same attitude of the stoneristi and biaggisti!!!
yet another stupidity of a rider who has brought his prestige to an end, very sorry for the crash, very bad, but Rossi deserves to be kicked in the ass for his arrogance and bravado shown in past years..., history teaches that many suffer from the louse syndrome rose to command. Rossi is an example of this!
I think you got drunk, you're talking about the greatest driver and you only know how to offend? For 15 years now, who has been better? you're ridiculous!!
I think there's too much bullshit around, too many geniuses who only know how to offend the best ever..
but what did he do to you? Did he steal the woman from you? you are out of your mind as well as rude beyond belief..
There is no hatred towards reds, but you ask yourself or you don't ask if he is truly a champion. In history, anyone who changed bikes called him out, he just took it and took the piss out of everyone.
Rossi, with the appropriate bike, can still give a lot in G, P., as Biaggi could have done in his time, before being unfairly cut off!!
It's worth it! go to TECH 3!! instead of Dovizioso!
Rossi either finds a competitive satellite team like the tech 3 team which is a bomb this year or he goes to SBK it's a matter of time and everyone will join him the GP with this CRT/Prototypes clownery has become a clownery, the costs are high, the battles of the past are no longer there, the system is collapsing!
You'll love it and love it!!!
However, they would do well right from the start to call things by their name: does the Ferrari Challenge exist where the cars are all Ferraris? Does the Renault Cup exist where the cars are all Renaults?
Good that they do the HONDA Moto3 Cup, HONDA Moto2 Cup and Honda MotoGP….
Of the entire article above, there is one sentence that truly makes you laugh out loud, and it is this:
“…makes it clear that this blind trust in Rossi no longer exists among the (Ducati) top management.”
Ahahahahahahaha! Ducati top management NO LONGER HAS TRUST IN ROSSI.
But it's vomiting, hives-inducing stuff!
Here the damaged party is Rossi, not the Ducati!
So, on the one hand there is a rider who has won anything on any bike.
On the other hand there is a motorbike that won a World Championship, but only thanks to a phenomenon called Stoner, coupled with the steel Bridgestone in a year in which all the other motorbikes were on bubble gum tyres. (Michelin version 2007) and a regulation, let's say “friend”.
For the rest, the Ducati has unseated more riders than a wild horse in the bloodiest of American Rodeos!!!
Come on, let's be serious, please!
Rossi waited a year and a half too long to leave there!
This is where he was unintelligent.
Let's hope that Audi does the Germans and send home the entire Ducati circus of MotoGP, forcing them to concentrate on SBK where they could collect victories with the mechanical shovel!
I suspect that Ducati and Mercedes F1 have done the same thing, that is, hiring a driver who brings sponsors and justifies the costs of keeping a useless team open.
More useless than anything useless!!!
and carmelo still changes cards on the table he is worse than the dealer in this case the bank always wins
Ehehehehe! The Japanese Yen, however devalued, if they give you lots of it, is always a great currency to have credited to an offshore account….
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Honda... in my opinion they are doing something bullshit... Ok to focus on young people too... but if the top teams competing in the world championship are historically 2... Honda and Yamaha, and Yamaha has one of the best riders who is already taking over this year the World Cup (most likely)…. Honda loses its top rider (Stoner) and what does it do?...do you think it will win with Camomillo or the youngster?...in my opinion it will give the next world championships to Lorenzo.
Honda may not even like Rossi (due to everything that happened in the past)... but with Stoner gone... if they want to have the chance to fight for the world championship with Lorenzo they would be better off taking Rossi.
He's the only one who has already won...he has the talent and experience to fight for a world championship
but isn't there a risk that this maerquez will burn? In my opinion, yes!!!
if I were Marquez I would leave Gresini (albeit with an official bike).
Make way for young people, and this is coming from someone who is 50 years old.
Other than stories, it's the only way to bring out their qualities, to put them to the test! If they handle the stress and manage to get on the podium they have a chance of doing something good.
Does Lorenzo tell you anything? He found himself in a rather difficult team to manage; and Stoner?
And Bradl this year?
It seems like a solemn hoax to me that someone shouldn't have the opportunity to compete because they're young, if you have what it takes, why not?
Titian
Well, let's say that given what Bradl is showing in this championship it would be natural to pair him with Pedrosa (a rider who in any case in my opinion has NO reason to exist in HRC anymore) and move Marquez to a satellite team for at least a year... and then next year have a nice official Honda team like Bradl/Marquez.
The truth is that in my opinion MotoGP has time to disappear until next year if they don't take action immediately...
I agree, we need to give young people the opportunity
reds on a super bike... well at least we would see him racing since moto gp and f1 are now only for gentlemen... (sky subscribers)
It's not a question that only gentlemen have Sky, but just that RAI has pissed me off with its fucking schedules that are always the same with ridiculous television programs!!!
I'm a warehouse worker (and I'm not a gentleman) but I have sky because the rai is on my dick and has been pissing me off.
how many articles did I read after the Silverstone races written under the effect of prozac ahhahah the 46 in Honda, the 46 was able to take you (with your uncle) by the piss and ruin a WINNING motorbike. I hope and believe that Ducati will kick its ass immediately so it will also get rid of its Taliban fans who infest the civil conversations of motorcyclists who love this sport, not even when faced with the evidence they have the shame to remain silent.
...I agree...I followed the Silverstone race with some of these "Talibans"...they rejoiced at the nurse's overtaking in Barbera, they said: "see, he's always a phenomenon"...it's a shame that he takes 36 seconds in the race and over 20 from his teammate...what a shame!!!
You are pathetic... when he gives 46 to Hayden no one points it out... when he gets 21 then everyone goes partying... and you would be the fans... bha... -.-
Aeneas
...it's our moment, get over it...you played so much and fooled those who didn't support the nurse/stretcher bearer when he won and now I have an idiosyncrasy for each of you...now I'll even open a beer...
…a Blue Ribbon…
Well, and then you already know what to do with the empty bottle?
And the action I'm referring to is not separate waste collection! ;-)
@Marco
Do you want to understand or not that right now the DUCATI in MotoGP is SPRAYING SHIT!?!?!?
You are the first Taliban on the forum, and accuse the others of being extremists!!
Take Rossi out of the equation (who is still the first DUCATI rider ahead of Hayden)
Where is the second official Ducati motorcycle? where are the second honda and yamaha guides??
Where are the Ducati satellite teams in the standings?
Where are the Honda and Yamaha satellite teams?
Do some math then go to the bathroom with a nice photo of the DUCATI... and get STIMULATED!!
Aeneas
Hayden made a good start, a race to forget, and finished SEVENTH, Cal started last and caught up.
Isn't it that the Ducati sucks and isn't it worth crashing like both riders did in practice, to do a loop of the loop?
I understand (a little) being against Rossi, but I think it's clear even to someone ignorant of motorcycles that this GP12 sucks, you saw in the tests how the riders lost the front while trying to force it, the bike is fast for a lap at most , as long as he doesn't unseat you in a non-dangerous way, then in the race at most they end up sixth if someone in front retires!
It's clear that Rossi isn't the problem!
Rossi may not be the same as he once was but in your opinion, is it worth risking crashes like those in practice to finish SEVEN?
A little honesty please!
Rossi at Honda Gresini….or in Cecchinello's team…
Both Bautista (Gresini) and Bradl (Cecchinello) have a two-year contract, except for setting up a new motorbike. Meanwhile, first Ducati-Espargaro contacts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
in interviews with riders and teams, they have ALWAYS declared themselves against the single control unit (limiting the revs from 19.000 to around 15.000) that Dorna had proposed, now, on several occasions, number 46 declares that it would be a good solution. as someone said "it's a sin to think badly but you often get it right) given that: uncle's words "we are working to put reds in more competitive conditions" there will be a 16.500 control unit Only for the 46?? yes, it has definitely happened with tires in the past (where it was allowed) and it will happen again. the show must go on the RACINGS or COMPETITIONS can wait.
the show takes place at the theater or at the circus and these freaks wallow in this environment, it's their natural element, it's a shame for sport and... dignity if they ever had it.
do you really think that the young Marquez will arrive and put them all behind him? I say no.
Pedrosa is a gentleman rider and arrived in MotoGP with a pedigree superior to that of the "cabbroncito" and yet he still hasn't managed to get his hands on the world championship...
Lorenzo and stoner? the first year for them wasn't easy at all, in fact they gave some BIG MINS... in short, I wouldn't take Marquez winning for granted.
...if I were Marquez I would accept the HRC starting from the 2nd year, and I would do the MGP without the pressure of having to win at all costs...in my opinion it would be the best approach.
What amazes me about this news is the fact that the rules are constantly changing to accommodate Honda alone...
Unfortunately this pandering has brought (even in the other categories) only negative things!
If they continue at this rate, MotoGP will soon end, alas...
I don't think the rules support Honda alone, so much so that this year they have changed the rules twice (until now) with an increase in weight and the introduction of the new tire called 2.
Honda and perhaps Yamaha have suffered more from the weight gain, the new tire certainly only Honda, perhaps also Ducati, but Ducati has NOT fought for the world championship for two years for reasons well known to everyone except the extremist Taliban fans not of this sport but of just one but this is idolatry and it's another story.
But sorry how can you still say that you favor or support Honda, it's clear as day that they are doing everything to disadvantage Honda and the riders.
*Marco and H954RR let's go easy on saying that Dorna is putting Honda at a disadvantage; I agree with you when you say that the increase in weight and the introduction of the 33 penalized Honda more; In my opinion, however, this depends primarily on the fact that Honda had such a perfect 800 that it found itself with an already almost completely defined 1000, being well advanced with the development work it had little room for maneuver to optimally update itself to the 2 new features introduced at the last minute... in fact I am not disputing the increase in weight (due to the CTRs) and the change of tire (for safety reasons) but rather the timing; having said this, also given my nickname, I hope that Honda resolves the problems as soon as possible and is able to provide Casey and Dani with a slightly more competitive vehicle, Lorenzo is the home of Iwata and they are more competitive than ever! Marquez chapter..make room for the youngsters of course..but let's at least wait for Moto2 to win..instead they already want him riding an Official HRC!
You know, there's a lot of speculation, but don't you find it strange that Casey began to have bigger problems than before and to no longer win immediately after his statements on Dorna for the reasons for his retirement?
They may be coincidences but they make you think.
Hello.
@Marco
Do you want to understand or not that right now the DUCATI in MotoGP is SPRAYING SHIT!?!?!?
You are the first Taliban on the forum, and accuse the others of being extremists!!
Take Rossi out of the equation (who is still the first DUCATI rider ahead of Hayden)
Where is the second official Ducati motorcycle? where are the second honda and yamaha guides??
Where are the Ducati satellite teams in the standings?
Where are the Honda and Yamaha satellite teams?
Do some math then go to the bathroom with a nice photo of the DUCATI... and get STIMULATED!!
Aeneas
Ps:
it's obvious that if you catch me in an existential crisis as a second Yamaha guide, you'll laugh in your face... ;)
Aeneas
At this point there are some reflections to make.
It is clear that Ducati, even if it is not at the level of Yamaha and Honda, is not even a "gate" as some want to make it out to be.
If anyone still had no doubts about the qualities of the super champion it would be time to review their beliefs, just look at how Hayden or even Barbera' who has the "old" bike and the effort the "multi-champion" made to pass him did.
If I were one of those, fortunately I have never been, who still believes that the "phenomenon" won everything thanks to his skill and not thanks to various privileges and help from his uncle, I would begin to doubt.
Otherwise explain to me why someone who would have won so much on his own ability alone managed to end up at this level, in the history of motorcycling it's the first time this has happened, it happened that the champion passed the scepter to someone else but fought against it together or go from first to second, third or fourth but NEVER last.
Now it's been three years since the various aids ended and the champion of champions has been getting paid.
Thinking about it, it's not all over and no one has done it again even if the little altars that were needed to make him win have been discovered and now it has become more difficult to favor him.
I am always more convinced of what I have always supported.
...in addition to the help, let's say that he has always been very lucky...even when he broke his shoulder and was in difficulty, I remember that the eruption of a volcano in Iceland had postponed a race to October...if this isn't bullshit... but there is justice and now they are all shitting...anyway, I repeat myself again, the driver is not ninth place, the driver is very strong, even if overrated...we need to recognize this and be sporty...the red man is instead a man of m...someone a little old like myself will surely remember when he spoke badly of Ferrari and Schummy, when he said he preferred Williams etc...all of a sudden then he became a Ferrarista, a friend of Schummy and now of Alonso with whom he had shamed himself some time ago... it is really a product of the current media system!!!
It's true, you're right, I forgot.
He had a LOT!
I also agree that as a driver he is not a bastard but I underline not even a phenomenon and champion as they wanted us to believe, he is a good "normal" driver with lots of fans and sponsors (money) but the phenomena are different, see Casey and Lorenzo to name the current ones.
As a "man" I have no words, I can't find them to define him, as you said but for me it's much worse, but I don't want to comment on it.
Hello.
Returning to what matters in the meantime, both Jorge and Casey are great and even if Lorenzo is now in the lead I have faith in Casey and I think the world championship will remain open until the end, great show!
GO CASEY!!!
Only a slightly sane person could say that Rossi has had and is having a good championship…. but whether you want it or not, it's still the first Ducati... ahead of Hayden... not a fool...
Stop talking as if it were the last Ducati in the rankings!
Aeneas
eneA you always talk about squirting shit, it's clear that you're practical...
However, two Ducatis lost the challenge, giving the bike to the multiple world champion, their uncle's nephew
and reds by getting on a competitive or front row bike and making it what you see now
that is, the last of the motogps
You Ducati fans should be much more accustomed to spraying... ;)
He was in the front row only with stoners... not only because he was a Martian, but because evidently his style was suited to the Ducati.
This year, however, stoner is struggling…
I repeat…!!! Only with stoner, the rest of the pilots found themselves disgusting... so you want to tell me that all the other pilots were morons???
And anyway if Rossi is failing, then the other Ducati riders who are behind... are involving!?!?!?!?
And stop this uncle bullshit... it wasn't funny when it was fresh... imagine after you beat it for a century... renew yourself!
Aeneas
and already... we've been talking about it for a century because it's been around for a century...
Saying that Stoner isn't a Martian says a lot about you
You and the other Rossi fans would make a better impression by admitting that Rossi isn't capable of riding a Ducati
the story that he was the one making the difference has collapsed
I don't think Lorenzo is copying Rossi's setup now
I think it's quite the opposite
that is, red when it doesn't come out that it copies Niky's setups
I know and bring it home!
sorry I forgot the chattering on the Honda emerged after the 5 kg rule
as far as the tires are concerned, if they are constantly changing it certainly isn't to help Honda...
you see that your uncle's story is still relevant…..
the signs had already been there of the inconsistency of 9 tires, they were clear when he had a strong driver as a teammate, Lorenzo certainly struggled but above all to have the same material and treatment as the 46 but once he reached the he expressed his goal to the whole world and precisely at Le Mans after a good dominated race he sat on the YELLOW chair in the center of the track as if to say I had dethroned him, from there number 46 understood nothing more, shoulder, Mugello accident and everything else, it was of no use to hinder him with walls and media pressure, the Majorcan eventually forced him to get out of the way...i …….hence our misadventures. Gone are the days of the best bikes and the best material with team mates like: Ukawa, Edwards, Hayden who just arrived from the American SSB. the story is simple for those who want to understand it. always and above all with uncle BEHIND. anyone would have done even better!!!! even an ordinary punishment.
...I'm pleased to note that H954RR and you (along with many others) would like to see the nurse/stretcher bearer/usher roasted...as far as I'm concerned, it's enough for me to see him in this situation he wanted...arrogance and being arrogant never pays...
…and with this I drink another blue ribbon beer ah, ah!!!
Nice fresh, needed today!
Ha ha ha, bye.
Just put this bottle in the same place as above... ;-)
Guys, do we want to talk about technique and motorbikes? enough about Rossi...we think one way and Rossi fans another;
Rossi lost his first career challenge (another half-challenge lost in 2010 with Lorenzo), this is enough to bring Rossi back to the true essence of the rider... one of the most successful riders in history, full stop! Stoner will go down in history for his pure speed, riding style, aggressiveness in driving the vehicle and victories with the Ducati. They are two very great men, and the same goes for Lorenzo (along with many others). I prefer Stoner...but these are "sentimental" issues. Moral of the story? No Martian and no driver who would have been able to win even with a Garelli! Ducati has shown that only one rider has managed to make it a winner... and this is worth more than a couple of world championships won by someone else... always for me!
Because unlike others Casey is a real phenomenon!
And I say it from his debut, I immediately saw that the boy had a lot of talent and then even the great Doohan said it at the time.
And this alone is enough.
So!?!?!?!?! Ever since he was always tumbling around in 250s, I too respected and appreciated this great rider who is a stoner... but to write history and be what Rossi became... the doctor... talent or drifts are not enough... or at least not only these. . and obviously the uncle is not enough..
but what am I telling you to do... pearls before swine... ;)
Aeneas
Boredom & Disgust
The essence of this thread.
I can't wait for both Stoner and Rossi to disappear from the scene forever, so then I want to see with what "nothingness" you will fill the "void" of certain concepts!
In any case, MotoGP and lower classes will become (but already are) a Honda single-brand championship.
Ducati will continue not to win anything but it will still be said for 30 years that it is Rossi's fault who ruined it, just as those who are stupid now will not become intelligent as time passes.
But stop with the theatrics... no one says that Rossi is the messiah and that Stoner is Gargamel...
They are both very champions, red a cut above. IMHO.
But read a little history of motorcycling!!!
Stoner is a meteor… PERIOD!!
I was a biaggi rider, I hated reds... I had to change my mind.
In the last few races Stoner seems anything but a Martian... but what can I tell you.
Ultimately, however, I can only quote W_il_sic…
BOREDOM & DISGUST…
But unlike him I rejoice thinking that soner is gone... you will disappear too... ;)
Aeneas
for w the sic
Is this why you had the blue ribbon as a sponsor?
for the separate waste collection?
of course you are able to decide who is stupid and who is intelligent…….
pearls of wisdom…….
It doesn't matter whether you support Stoner or Rossi, the squalid thing about this site is that it is full of posts from ignorant people without any respect... oh yes, you are great riders to judge! chickens
any other pearls of wisdom?
who is really a stoner I think the best person to say it is Rossi...
I think that in these two years he has understood this
even the mechanics and technicians themselves who have the telemetry in their hands know it
I'll be a chicken maybe..
but at least the various Cereghini and Lucchinelli medas have finished saying that they would like to see reds with Magneti Marelli electronics, the 338 km per hour of the Ducati...
you just had to get on the gas and she'd take care of it all
result ?
record number of red falls!!
you're right
even the chickens noticed it…..
…ah, ah ah….great…I won't open another beer just because it's morning!!! The red supporters can only hope for rain...at least Max Temporali will also be able to vent his partisan support!!!
Most ??? of all he wrote:
“But stop with the theatrics… no one says that Rossi is the messiah and that Stoner is Gargamel…
They are both very champions, red a cut above. IMHO.”
AAAAhahahaha the day started off well laughing ahahahaha!!!
One shoulder above ahahahahaha!!!
oops. sorry "a span", it's the rush a customer had entered the shop...
especially the chicken OSVALDO…….
rain or spray???
hehehehehehehehee
And for the rest who wrote “the most ???” of all he was definitely wrong he meant “mysteries”!
Hahahaha!
@Bibo
I don't know if I'm more pissed off by the current Ducati or by the way you write your posts.
Another thing I don't understand is whether the form or the content is worse.
Regarding the form, I recommend another 3 years of middle school, regarding the content, a good psychoanalyst... but I don't promise anything. ;)
Good day. :)
@H954RR
But you're not the one who in hundreds of posts just wrote: "W_il_sic fuck you" or something like that...!
You could do it again, the level of bullshit you write hasn't evolved anyway...
or you could wait for the doctor's next good race, and go back to hiding like after the French GP...
Maybe the second is better... noticing how you disappear after races like Le Mans is priceless... and unfortunately (for you) this is the inevitable end. :)
Aeneas
With W_il_sic I made it clear and it's not up to you to involve anyone.
I NEVER hide I'm sorry for you and it's you who will disappear at the retreat of your faith not us the enthusiasts the real ones who look at everyone not just one, if I don't write it's because I don't want to or because someone like you makes me drop the so-called so much for the absurd immense bullshit you write that I consider any discussion useless and I'll leave it to you.
As I have already written, it is useless to continue arguing, it is so useless, as another person said, the mother of imbeciles is always pregnant and you are the overwhelming proof of this!
Poor YELLOW FAITHFUL people who always take it out on each other, ah ah ah ah ah!!!
Aeneas (?!!!) watch out, I'm sending you Ulysses! ah ah ah!
I'm not implicating anyone... I just wanted to remind everyone of the average level of your comments... ;)
And yes... you don't disappear... hehehe but the desire passes (and will pass) just when Vale is not criticisable... see Le Mans... :)
Bullshits? are you the ones who say that 9 titles are won thanks to the "uncle"(!?!?!?!?)…. -.-
You are the graduates in cazzarology... complete with a master's degree. ;)
PS: I don't care about your mother's affairs... be more discreet... :)
PS2: Ulysses!??! hahaha at least you're nice... hahaha :D
Aeneas
Be a good asshole, don't be cool because you're behind a PC.
A piece of advice, let yourself be seen by a good person because your personal attitude when it comes to reds is cause for concern in your area there are major mental problems.
With this I absolutely close everything with you I hope you do the same with me I have others of another race to discuss.
Ui... big words fly... :)
The difference between me and you is this…
I have never said Stoner, Lorenzo or Pedrosa shit... never...
But you continue to say Rossi shit.
This annoys me, more than as a fan, as a user of a forum who, because of people like you, has to see the level of discussion DEGENERATE at every opportunity.
Every time with this fucking uncle... the rubbers... the 9 world championships given away... etc etc...
Look at this link…!!!
http://motograndprix.motorionline.com/2012/05/20/motogp-le-mans-gara-la-parola-a-lorenzo-rossi-e-stoner/
The race after the mans... you were ALL GONE!!!!!
EVERYONE!!!
Proving that you are ONLY in this forum to break the balls on reds... and when you can't do it because he ran well GONE!!!
Do I act cool behind a PC? I'm from Rome like you... when you want to clarify all you have to do is ask... ;)
I hope that one day we can talk about motorcycles again... :)
Good evening. :)
Aeneas
Am I from Rome?
I'm from Varese.
…are you sure you're not from Rome? EneA seems convinced, he makes very few mistakes, just like his idol... the fault must be your PC which has a keyboard made in "Garbatella"...
...a bit like Rossi who rides a Ducati made in Bologna...you know, used to Japs...with custom-made tyres...with the help of his Uncle...with the beatings, God damn...er, sorry, I got carried away, or rather the finger on the English keyboard…
fatman I support you completely!
Ha ha he's joking "everywhere", however you're right, what can you do, let's be patient a little longer, as in a little while (say, 2 or 3 years) they will all disappear together.
Hello.
generally those who shit spray have the... broken
If I'm going to be like you, I'd better keep my high school diploma
shame on you, it's better!!!
go and threaten someone you don't even know who he is...
more than courageous you seem a little reckless...
by the way when did he run well???
I didn't notice, maybe in one of those wet races that are generally decided by chance in centering the set-up?
I swear to you that I try never to be gratuitously offensive... ;)
My dad has seventh grade... despite this he has a culture, speaks and writes excellently and has written two books...
My somewhat joking note referred to the fact that you write stupid things, without even paying attention to punctuation...
Your eighth grade level should be more than enough to write in such a way that I don't have to struggle to understand what you write. ;)
But I apologize if I offended you on this aspect and I'll end here. ;)
BUT explain to me where I threatened someone???
Unconscious why?
I really didn't get it... ;)
He ran well... look where the other Ducatis were... enough of this bullshit about setups...
Remove Rossi from the ranking and you see that the rest of the riders obtained more or less the same positions as always.
Only Rossi achieved a different result than usual.
point.
Aeneas
Obviously the last part of the post was referring to le mans. ;)
Aeneas
Well done bibo you said well, this on the contrary is something that doesn't touch me inside for me it's just sports discussions, but as you said well it's lucky that we're far away because the "boy" doesn't imagine the misfortune he would get himself into.
Okay, better this way.
However, as I have already said with some, like the subject we are talking about, it is better to let them speak and believe what they want because with these people it is a waste of time, don't they want to understand? Well !
They're happy, I laugh, but it's for certain people that you also understand why Italy is going badly.
Hello.
Just for the record, I've never disappeared if Casey doesn't win but I've already explained why.
However, I'm really getting bored with the usual useless unfounded discussions.
I think that Rossi is currently still the strongest rider
but tell me the truth (I don't want to make fun of you) do you really not know the history of custom tyres?
I would like an honest answer
At the time I saw the interview with the head of Michelin who said it openly after he got tired of hearing Rossi's complaints (perhaps even justified)
you said you're from Rome and you can meet... given the tone I think it's better not to
I wouldn't do it because I don't see what there is to discuss, everyone would have their own opinion...
the fact of writing badly puts me in a hurry, my eyesight (now I have to wear glasses) and the PC which if I don't get away will delete the page,
maybe she's not orthodox
but I think that you, who are better than me, may still have difficulty understanding me
Allow me to intervene in this discussion between you two because it has an irritating aspect, in fact I have already underlined what I am about to write 1000 times: when the best rider of the moment and a large materials and components company decide to form a partnership, it they do it in mutual interest.
The pilot tries to ensure the best material on the market at that moment, it happens in any sport tools and components are used: tennis, skiing, cars, etc etc
And in favoring a certain athlete or more athletes, the manufacturer seeks visibility, image return and so on when the athlete of the moment wins thanks to his materials.
It pisses me off like a snake, this arrogance of saying that Michelin made tires especially for Rossi!
So what?
Rossi in that historical period was the strongest rider ever! And Michelin was looking for a way to say to the world: seen? our tires make you become WORLD CHAMPION!
Stoner won a world championship with tires made just for him (in fact Bridgestone only supplied Ducati) so what?
Come on, stop being children and connect the brain you are gifted with whenever you want!
However, EneA is perfectly right about one thing, and that is that in this forum there are many whose only reason for existing is to be able to say that Rossi is me...da, and this thing here, in addition to qualifying by itself who pronounces it, has only a lot bored!
Because they are always the same ones who spam any thread with this assumption.
And that's it, we understood it, you said it in every way, we even wrote it down in the diary in case we forgot, but when will you stop busting your ass about this thing?
You're still the same anyway, it's not like someone new comes along to remind us that Rossi=shit.
Can we continue please?
Of course I know the history of the tyres... I never said that Rossi is the champion of justice and that he has never made mistakes in his choices, and I also understand that sometimes he is annoying with his antics.
So far I can agree with you...
It only annoys me when they want to pass off Stoner as a super champion, and Rossi as a badass who won 9 titles by mistake... always thanks to help... and obviously that's not the case... ;)
Regarding the fact that I'm from Rome...
He accused me of acting cool from behind a PC, as if only from behind a PC had I had the courage to reiterate my ideas...
I simply replied that I am from Rome, and since from the way he writes I think he is too, if he had had the knowledge he could have clarified his points of view with me in person.
I don't act cool because I'm behind a PC.
Regarding the writing here no one is better than anyone... ;)
The one you use is fine, the important thing is that in the future we will tone it down... me first......
But I DOUBT IT…!!! :D:D:D
Have a nice day... I'm off to work :)
Aeneas
@H954RR
In the post addressed to bibo I said that from the way you wrote it seemed like you were from Rome.
You're not…? Better. :)
But please stop…..
With bibo it seems you can talk easily, without necessarily exaggerating... I hope it becomes the same with others...
However, remember that this is a public forum.
I too have the right to post without necessarily having to extricate myself from a thousand gratuitous bullshit and insults against Rossi.
When you DIRTY a public forum people have reason to get pissed off.
Enough of this shit about your uncle etc etc...
Basta.
Aeneas
You say that this, rightly, is a public forum and you have the right to post, obviously yes, just as I and everyone who writes to us have this right.
The "bullshit" and "dirtying the forum" as you call them are absolutely different points of view of people who think differently as for you it may seem like ours for people like me it's yours, clear?
And when YOU give gratuitous insults to everyone, including drivers (except obviously one), is that okay?
Now WE too have the right to get pissed off!
Note that the digs at what we say without involving you are always you who make them first.
You talk about moderation of tone but I still don't see any in yours.
Having said that, as has already happened with others, when you tone it down I will too.
Before blaming others, we must learn to be a little objective and look at our own behavior, dearest Enea.
I hope I have been clear enough.
Greetings.
You know well that this is not the case... do you want an example above all?
News regarding Barbeá, he complains that he has the old frame as he is a customer bike.
First comment from your ultra friend:
“And yes, because if they give Barbera the new loom it's worth making a bad impression... and the uncle (who the fuck is this uncle...) is working.
This is the example of free downloads that litter the forum and to which I respond.
I could come up with hundreds of points.
Aeneas
This discussion is starting to bore me... -.-
Do you want an example of free crap littering the forum? Well:
News on BARBERà... he complains that his Ducati Pramac still has the old frame, and Rossi and Hayden are mentioned in passing, who at the time rejected it for the official ones.
Moral?
In comes that person who I now sympathetically believe to be incapable of understanding and wanting, and he comes out:
“if they gave BARBERà a good chassis it would make Rossi look bad (and therefore also Hayden who is behind Vale in the standings) and therefore the “UNCLE” (who the fuck is this “UNCLE”) is working.
This is the shit any serious mod would admonish you for.
But that doesn't happen here.
Another one?
Rossi 41 seconds on track to Hayden.
Comment:
The “UNCLE” tampered with the Hayden control units etc etc etc.
Go find some of my out-of-place answers that aren't in response to any of this bullshit.
Hello.
Aeneas
Aeneas
DO IT WAY!!!
How old are you if I'm not being prying?
I'm already happy that you said let's moderate the terms....
what I didn't understand is when you said you doubt it!
However, in your way of speaking I already see a form of respect and this does you credit!
;-)
I'm 29 ;)
I say that I doubt it because I already know that in this forum there are also people who will never moderate the terms... I hope I'm wrong. ;)
I'm glad you moderated them too. :)
Aeneas
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