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• Raziel760 said:

  15 January 2018 at 16: 48

  Dovizioso's only hope of winning the world championship is to hope that the Ducati is the better bike, with a technical advantage. Dovi's gaps could be filled by his consistency, and of course... only if the 99 hadn't finished adapting.

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• Micbatt said:

  15 January 2018 at 17: 16

  Personally I think that Dovi has grown so much that the only one who is afraid is number 99... I personally don't consider Lorenzo a champion but simply a good rider who won the MotoGP titles not due to his merits but only due to fortuitous coincidences... and I won't add anything else....

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  1. Raziel760 said:

     15 January 2018 at 18: 16

     No, Lorenzo has always been a phenomenon on the right days, an excellent bike without a doubt, with some shortcomings, but excellent riding precision and speed, he's very lacking in the head, I'm sorry to contradict you, but I don't see him as grown up, I see him as adapted to the motorcycle but unable to overcome the technical limits by going beyond his own. The battles that he won with MM were not of pure ignorance but in some cases fortuitous, that is, a normal crossing of lines with full throttle and Ducati engine doing the rest.

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     1. TONYKART said:

        15 January 2018 at 23: 13

        I don't know what races you saw or what you drank, Dovi won and had Madonna races against Marquez, the others don't even see him from afar...

     2. Raziel760 said:

        16 January 2018 at 10: 15

        Don't get me wrong, I supported Dovi on all those occasions, but objectively look at Austria, much better pace, MM clinging with his teeth, he tried at the last suicidal moment and maintaining the inside line he opened the throttle and won, in Japan he didn't he would never have attacked him at the end if not for a mm error and with a victory exactly like in Austria, a suicidal attack by Marquez who goes wide and Dovi with an inside trajectory opens first and wins. Obviously I'm not saying that he didn't deserve it or that he's poor, he's simply not a world champion with the same bike as the others. And personally I disliked his behavior at the end of the championship, very happy to have finished second... very happy?! he was fighting for the title and lost it! (not the last race but the ones before..)

     3. nandop6 said:

        16 January 2018 at 13: 07

        In my opinion too, Dovizioso has grown, either due to a perfect adaptation to the bike, or due to a mental factor which, seeing the results, has also made him improve in terms of aggression and the duels with Marquez make this clear, without taking anything away from Marquez but respect the other drivers have the risk factor on their side which on several occasions has played a fundamental role.

     4. TONYKART said:

        16 January 2018 at 15: 49

        since you supported him just because you hate Marquez it already tells me something about you, so it's his fault if he won in Austria just because in that case the Ducati had a better pace??? what's the reasoning??? in Japan Marquez went far because he was shooting to the death and behind him only Dovizioso who was going just as well, and where were the others???? so it's worth nothing???? with the same bike we can make the comparison with Lorenzo and Petrucci using the same identical bike, it seems to me that of the three he is the best for now....
        Of course it's a shame that he lost the world championship, but right now if there's anyone who can worry Marquez it's him, on the stronger Ducati than Dovizioso at the moment only Marquez and Stoner could go with a bit of training, if do you think someone else would do better I would really like to hear the name... Rossi maybe????

     5. nandop6 said:

        16 January 2018 at 21: 40

        Tony remembers Dovizioso the first two years, the Ducati is a bike that has changed over time, becoming more and more similar to the Japanese ones but it is still not as easy as them, Andrea has developed the bike bringing it to what it is today and after 5 seasons he knows how his pockets strengths and weaknesses exactly as Stoner knew them in 2010, taking a rider used to japs ​​and making him ride the Ducati is not easy, but I am also convinced that he has grown in competitiveness especially at the head level.

     6. TONYKART said:

        16 January 2018 at 22: 33

        Nando I agree with what you say, it's Raziel who seems off track to me….

     7. Raziel760 said:

        17 January 2018 at 09: 41

        I don't think I said anything strange, you can read things however you want, in fact if you reread them perhaps you could understand them better, I didn't take anything away from Dovizioso, obviously he clearly won the comparison with the other Ducati riders, I simply said that he is the rider who is most adapted and knows the Ducati, He took his victories, he was there, but to win the world championship he must have a superior bike.

     8. H954RR said:

        17 January 2018 at 10: 18

        nando, you say "a rider used to Japanese and having him ride a Ducati is not easy" I agree with you, but the same goes if you are used to riding a difficult bike like the Ducati then when you get on a Japanese one, i.e. an "easy" bike (even if on closer inspection the Honda is not only not easy but also poor, a Honda enthusiast tells you this) you fly and you find things more simplified, see Casey switching from the Ducati with a fresh record immediately beaten by a good chunk as soon as he got on the honda, this is true but in both situations.

     9. nandop6 said:

        17 January 2018 at 11: 52

        H954RR
        The Honda can be anything but poor, a great rider who knows how to develop it can win all the world championships, he has economic resources and techniques that the others don't have, Stoner is a great rider who manages to adapt to the bike but in terms of development he is not at the altitude, the Honda he rode in 2011 was a great bike developed by a certain Dovizioso. In my opinion, today's Ducati is not as difficult as in the past but it still has a slightly different riding style, especially from Yamaha, while Honda is closer to it, perhaps due to the engine, I don't know.

     10. H954RR said:

         17 January 2018 at 12: 05

         Nando, Honda is a great manufacturer and has many resources but in these last two years it was definitely not a world championship bike and for me they have taken a not so right path in being as always framed in one direction which I consider their flaw On this I'm sure, the big difference was made by the phenomenon with the N.93 who drove it. I can say about Stoner that on the one hand I agree with you because having an immense handle makes up for the shortcomings of the vehicle and the bike seems to be perfect, but you also forget that in Ducatis convinced of the "coverage" (of the phenomenon that drove it) the competitiveness of their bikes never listened to the slightest part of what Stoner asked, consequently even as a test rider in my opinion he isn't bad since he saw things that weren't right and asked for improvements.

     11. nandop6 said:

         17 January 2018 at 13: 37

         Logically I am not a technician but I report what I read and see, Honda follows Marquez's indications and in the past Pedrosa had complained a bit, some say that they have different bikes but they certainly give Marquez the best of what he asks for and say that the Honda is poor seems wrong to me, you have to see the bike-rider package and in my opinion the best bike is better for one rider but not for another, logically if a strong rider has the possibility of sewing the bike for his own characteristics in a house that has economic resources for which higher techniques than others becomes more competitive.

     12. H954RR said:

         17 January 2018 at 13: 55

         I have always been convinced that to see the real value of the bike you need to look at the second where it is in the rankings and not the first because in the first the difference is made by whoever rides it, however they are opinions.

     13. H954RR said:

         17 January 2018 at 13: 57

         Just as the same is true that it is easier to go fast after you have ridden a difficult bike and switch to an easy one rather than the opposite, as at the beginning of the discussion.

     14. nandop6 said:

         17 January 2018 at 16: 25

         It's a bit complicated, do you remember the difference between Stoner and Melandri in 2008? Melandri may not be Stoner but there can't be that much difference, the same thing happened this year between Dovizioso and Lorenzo, there are technical characteristics that can destroy a rider's strengths and changing riding style is not easy, remember Stoner on the 2006 Honda LCR? Magically in 2007 on the Ducati there was another rider, very fast and without crashes, Capirossi who in 2206 was competing in the world championship in 2007...

     15. H954RR said:

         17 January 2018 at 17: 34

         At will, and as if I remember Stoner with LCR and if you remember well until the bike didn't let go of him because thanks to the strength of his immense talent he was able to go beyond the limit of the vehicle he was always in front, but the point I have made between the first and the second is on the same bike from the same team because the bikes, apart from adjustments or small things, are similar, while the official Hondas and the one that Casey of the LCR rode were very different.

     16. H954RR said:

         17 January 2018 at 17: 53

         Regarding the legendary Casey as a test rider, I'll just report one statement: "Stoner is a rider with incredible sensitivity: "For example: a team could design the bike's rims and then have two different suppliers make them. They were identical circles in every way, in terms of design, weight and shape. But Stoner was able to distinguish them based on the feeling he had while driving,” Forcada explained to Motorsport.com.” but there are many of this type about who the great Casey is both as a driver and as a test driver.

• Micbatt said:

  15 January 2018 at 20: 35

  In any case, we hope to see a good championship. I don't deny that I would like to see an Italian triumph... Too much Spain in this MotoGP...
  I'm biased? Yes …. without taking anything away from MM93 which I consider one of the best at the moment.

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• TONYKART said:

  15 January 2018 at 23: 26

  the chassis of the one he presented was world-class

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