MotoGP Phillip Island: Marquez beats Lorenzo, an amazing Iannone beats Rossi
Success for the Honda rider who beats Lorenzo and Iannone
MotoGP 2015 Phillip Island Race – Fantastic MotoGP race at Phillip Island, scene of the Australian Grand Prix. Great protagonists were Marc Marquez, Jorge Lorenzo, Andrea Iannone and Valentino Rossi, who finished in that order. A race made up of many overtakings, some surprising, like the one made by Andrea Iannone against Marquez and Rossi.
The Ducati rider rode in an impeccable manner, fighting without fear against much more renowned rivals, returning to the podium, a podium that had been missing for too long. Marquez's decisive overtaking of the race on Lorenzo occurred on the last lap, when the Honda rider set a new track record with a time of 1:29.280. For Marquez, this is the 24th victory in MotoGP, the fifth of the season. An overtaking that allows Valentino Rossi to limit the damage, even if his points lead over Lorenzo drops from 18 to 11 with two races to go.
Race report
The great wait is about to end, the riders of the MotoGP class are ready to contest the Australian Grand Prix on the wonderful Phillip Island track, scene of the sixteenth stage of the season, a season which sees Valentino Rossi leading the world championship with 18 points advantage over Jorge Lorenzo. Yesterday in the 15-minute "Time Attack" it was Marc Marquez who prevailed and took pole position, making his eighth pole start of the season. Andrea Iannone will start on the front row with him on the Ducati GP15 and Jorge Lorenzo, riding the Yamaha M1. The Motegi winner Dani Pedrosa, the British Cal Crutchlow and the rookie Maverick Vinales will start from the second row. Valentino Rossi will start from the third row, having achieved the seventh fastest time, while Andrea Dovizioso (Ducati GP15) and Danilo Petrucci (Ducati GP14.2) will start from the fourth and fifth rows respectively. Everything is ready, 14 degrees in the air, 39 on the asphalt; twenty-seven laps to go for 120.096 km. The traffic lights go out, the fastest at the start is Andrea Iannone, who took off like a rocket with his Desmosedici GP15. Followed by Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Marquez, Crutchlow, Rossi, Aleix Espargarò, Vinales, Dovizioso and Petrucci.
Lorenzo attacks and takes the lead, while Pedrosa defends himself from Marquez. Iannone exploits the power of the Ducati on the straight and takes the lead again while Marquez passed Pedrosa after a second attempt. The battle between Lorenzo and Iannone was beautiful, with the Ducati rider hitting a seagull when braking at the hairpin! Great fear and a bad end for the bird who unfortunately found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time. On lap three Lorenzo passes in front of Iannone, Marquez, Crutchlow, Rossi, Pedrosa and Aleix Espargarò. Double overtaking by Rossi, the Pesaro driver passes first Pedrosa and then Crutchlow. Iannone comes along and loses a few positions, but Rossi doesn't take advantage of me. The battle is huge, the riders don't hold back, Lorenzo tries to pull away, while Marquez second after Iannone's long lead, is now followed by Rossi, who passed Iannone, in turn ahead of Pedrosa. Lorenzo is unable to escape, while Nicky Hayden withdraws. Fast lap from Rossi, the rider from Pesaro is now close to Marquez, with Iannone instead trying to mend the gap with the rider from Pesaro. The rider from Vasto succeeds, as he follows Rossi and could exploit the power of his Ducati on the straight. #29 does it, even passing both Yamaha and Honda. However, Marquez and Rossi are not there and regain their positions a few corners later.
We have now reached the halfway point of the race, Lorenzo leads ahead of Marquez, Rossi, Iannone, Crutchlow, Pedrosa, Vinales, Aleix Espargarò, Pol Espargarò, Smith, Dovizioso, Redding, Petrucci, Miller and Bautista. Fast lap by Marquez, 1:29.2, the reigning champion has now caught up with the Majorcan Yamaha. The battle for fifth position sees Crutchlow, Pedrosa and Vinales as protagonists.
Marquez attacks, and with 10 laps to go he passes Lorenzo at the hairpin, the first four, Marquez, Lorenzo, Iannone and Rossi are all fighting for the victory. At the moment the fastest are Iannone and Rossi. The Ducati rider's race was amazing, keeping the colors of the Borgo Panigale company high and literally "stripping" the competition on the straight. Lorenzo attacks, taking the lead again and a few corners later Iannone also attacks and passes Marquez. The reigning champion was not there and took second place at the hairpin. Rossi also breaks the deadlock and passes the Ducati rider.
Last three laps of the race, Rossi attacks at the hairpin, widens slightly and Iannone passes both him and Marquez with an amazing overtaking! Lorenzo took advantage of this and moved slightly ahead of the three who were battling it out. The final lap begins, Lorenzo tries to keep the lead, while Rossi passes Iannone. Marquez caught Lorenzo, who was passed by his compatriot. The victory goes to Marquez, who mocks Lorenzo, while Iannone crosses the finish line ahead of Rossi.
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What a race! truly one of the best races of the year! Fantastic!
Marc did an amazing last lap... my goodness!
Iannone is now a top rider! really a good race! Next year with a better bike he can definitely compete
And Rossi had recovered after the difficulties of the other days and was there. Too bad we missed the podium.
Points lost but championship open! Whatever happens, everything will be decided in Valencia!
Good race, my pulse was at 120 for a good part of the race.
Very bad race for Valentino though, he had enough to do at least second even to win.
It was a 5tupid0.
Marquez played the entire GP and took it by the hair, he knew that dragging Rossi along meant he couldn't win.
Lorenzo was extremely lucky and after a few GPs in which luck wasn't on his side, he was the slowest at the front and finished second because the others controlled themselves too much and made melina thinking they could easily eat him.
Lorenzo should learn to keep quiet on Saturdays, because he would have deserved that Iannone left Valentino, or even that he had to attack Jorge.
Damn I had fun, amazing race
When Iannone is fit and has the bike in order, he is a real bulldog....
It's a shame for Rossi, if he had had a little more speed on the straight, perhaps he could have played with it...
Oh well... the ending gets more interesting!!
I think that more than the gull wings on the Ducati they will put the gull hole, Iannone was very strong on the straight maybe they found a new aerodynamic solution haha
What a guy! I can't remember the last time I saw so many overtaking in a single grand prix. Marquez was incredible. Seeing him recover like that on Lorenzo in the last two laps was amazing. Well done Lorenzo who rode brilliantly but against a Marquez like that there is little you can do. Iannone went full blast. The double overtaking against Marquez and Rossi was beautiful. The one who gave him third place a little less! ;) Oh well, everyone has their own say... but what the hell. Rossi once again proved himself to be a racing animal, he lapped with a great pace but he lacked a little something at the end to grab the podium, and he had to leave too many points on the table this time. Now in Sepang he will have to perform a miracle to be able to maintain the eleven points advantage that he still has over Lorenzo, because arriving at Valencia with less than what he has left is very, very risky.
Ps: Iannone's header against the seagull is sensational!
Of course saying that Lorenzo is unlucky, right Ronnie... it takes a lot of courage when you lose a race with two corners to go... well...
And this race shows how Lorenzo, like his colleagues, is not afraid of the fight.
Amazing Iannone, what courage in overtaking, Marquez amazing victory with power, and congratulations to Rossi who is always there in the race. Nice championship, let's hope it's open until the last race and the best wins.
Lorenzo was lucky, because the others had plenty to catch him, but Rossi, when Marquez told him to pass, eager to win, fell behind, they lost from 6 tenths to over 1.5 seconds and never caught him again.
Furthermore, Lorenzo was a pirl@, he slowed down on the last lap thinking that they couldn't get back behind the others in the brawl, he lost the race alone, he didn't want to take risks on the last lap and do it at the pace of the previous ones.
Furthermore, yesterday Lorenzo was whining because he had dragged Iannone behind him and today Iannone gave him the points... So he should whine less, that's for sure.
1 minute of silence for the kamikaze pigeon please…you will be missed.
Holy cow, what a Championship and what a race!!!!
I hope I'm wrong, but it will be years before we see a fight of this level and a Championship like this again.
If last race Jorge completely failed in his strategy, in this one his pursuers completely failed when they started fighting each other at the end of the race.
And I'm sorry, but today all 3 had more than Lorenzo.
But they competed with each other instead of pulling each other and going for it.
Today Jorge was lucky (certainly very fast, God forbid, but the other 3 had more).
Wasted opportunity to score big points.
With ifs and buts we are all Phenomena, but it is a fact. Jorge was shooting like crazy, but the others were faster.
Marc's last lap was crazy (in a good way). AWESOME guys.
And what a great engine the Gp 15 is…. Impressive. Not to mention Iannone's double overtaking (also due to the clash between Rossi and Marc)? A great!!!
And the amazing overtaking that the good Valentino did? Only to then see the paint stripped on the forehands and ruin everything….
They made a mistake, and luck turned on Jorge's side today, who knows if he will carry on with his prank or if he will keep quiet today :).
Nod of enjoyment for me.
The little devil Maverick did a great job today, no lies... Getting behind Cal's Honda, his teammate and the two Tech3 Yamahas (plus Redding) is a great result. Few balls*. Guy of Maverick and my Suzuki!!!!
I'm really sorry about Dovi... As they say, "he gave it up". I hope she can find herself again.
Small nod to the seagull (note how the fins are of no use at all, or rather they are used for useless beatings. And it's time to remove them, my fear was to see two motorbikes hooked together for those useless things... It's time to give it a rest).
RIP Seagull.
Ps: Sorry if I wrote so much, but I'm pumped like a spring after today's race (and the last lap of the crazy boy, who after the qualifying lap in Austin I allow myself to associate with my great idol Kevin) and the guy of my Suzuki.
I don't agree that the others had more than Lorenzo, first because following is easier and the demonstration was that when Marquez was in the lead he didn't go away and Lorenzo overtook him with a great overtaking between the 'other…
According to Rossi, if he hadn't let Marquez pull him, he would have achieved fourth place anyway but together with Pedrosa and company and not so close to those on the podium.
If you want advice, watch the race again and pay attention to the times and the lines they took when they were free and not fighting each other.
The 3 behind Lorenzo had more.
Then Jorge was very good, but he was lucky that the others, instead of fighting for positions in the final laps, practically always fought.
Today they had more.
bcs enough of me with these fins haha, they help to lower the bike in a straight line from what they said, it helps to make it go faster by reducing the part exposed to the wind.
Hanging on is impossible, did you see the hole on Iannone's bike? that was an object on a solid and profiled part of the fairing, the fins pop off like nothing if they touch each other and then it is difficult to attach as that is a smaller part than the rider at least on the Yamahas but also on the Ducatis . it's difficult to get the flaps to hook on, and they pop off like nothing if they touch each other.
If you're bothered by my hatred towards useless wings, don't read me. Very simple.
Are you sure it's impossible to hook up?
I do not think so.
If they skipped away with nothing at 350mph you'd see them flying around the circuit, given the load they're under.
The profit they bring is minimal, often zero (read the pilots' statements. Where most of them do not notice who knows what differences). They are useless and dangerous.
Ok they walk away with nothing? Very good. There is contact, the wing flies away and goes under the bike of the one following.
Maybe while I'm styling...
They are useless and in my opinion they should be banned.
It's my personal opinion, now don't start with your usual spiel that I don't feel like it.
Have you seen Iannone's hole?
(On the hull ihihihihi)
I don't think it gave him any disadvantage having that hole there in terms of lap time.
Symptom that all this aerodynamic research on motorcycles doesn't make much sense.
It already makes little sense in F1... How many times have you seen flaps fly off and the driver in question go faster without than with?
Very often…
That's the masturbation of aerodynamics.
Useless stuff….
bcs I agree with you only on the fact that if they detach they can create a problem for the riders following, otherwise they jump away like nothing.
It's not true that they're not useful, those who say that there is no advantage are all lies, it's pre-tactics between Rossi and Lorenzo, because one uses them and the other doesn't.
The bike lowers up to 3cm on the straights from what I've heard, so the surface area exposed to the air of the bike decreases a lot, so from km/h to top speed and it keeps the front down which doesn't give any advantages...
In any case, they are very weak appendages, which have a high degree of flexion given that they are made of carbon fiber and in my opinion they pop off if they touch each other, we will see when it happens, for me it is almost impossible for them to attach because the rider's body is bulkier and the pilot leans out when there is a risk of contact.
I don't care if you say I'm right or wrong.
I am not seeking your consent.
However, it is not true that they jump away like nothing.
If this were the case, even with the load at speed you would see them flying through the air.
Today the poor seagull ended up with a part of its wing (I reviewed the images) but the wing remained intact.
They don't pop off like anything. This is bullshit.
The two from Ducati also declared that they are of little use and that they did not find major differences.
Declaring that he had not heard any differences and that he trusted the engineers.
The load on a motorbike also depends on the rider's riding position, how much he loads, how he rides, etc.
You think they just pop off like nothing, but in reality they don't.
They are not weak appendages. Not at all.
It is also almost impossible for a motorbike to go inwards instead of going outwards (after a fall).
It's almost impossible for an accelerator to remain open in 2015 and just by chance it happened in a certain area of the track.
It is almost impossible to cleanly cut a bent TC cable.
Racing and the track are already dangerous. And add some useless and potentially dangerous masturbations (imagine for a moment an overtaking on the outside, the overtaking driver exaggerates and the one overtaken tries to defend himself in turn. Getting stuck in the bullshit is a moment).
I would put a stop to this, not you.
Different points of view. As has often happened
There remain some masturbations* of aerodynamics.
The seagull didn't touch any fins. It hit the part of the fairing that had a hole in front of the front brake lever.
Maybe he didn't even touch Iannone on the head who had the reflex to head to impact, but maybe he was just grazed by a winger or he didn't even impact you, it was clear from the replay at the end of the match.
Part of the seagull also caught Iannone's wing and it showed in the replay at the end of the race.
No, he didn't take the helmet, it was his reflection.
But I repeat that they don't jump away with anything like you want to pretend (have you seen how they fix them? Images of Montegi on one of the Yamahas), and that yours is "impossible" (later passed to almost impossible) doesn't hold up.
Many "impossible" things (not least ending up under a bulldozer in the SC regime in F1) then happened.
The track is already dangerous and as I see it it is better (where possible) to eliminate potential dangers immediately.
Then, easily nothing will be done, but I will always be accountable to these "wings".
You amaze me though, you know where the front brake is on a motorbike :) (don't get angry eh! It's a joke!)
Those of Yamaha are fixed with two screws on "nuts" inserts which are placed inside the overlapping fibers and glued with epoxy resin which form the composite material of the hull, which I imagine is mainly carbon fiber or some type of ultra-lightweight plastic.
The Yamaha fins are not a problem, they are very narrow and are inside the fairing and they pop off like nothing, given that those m4-m5 inserts are very weak, in fact you can see that sometimes only with a strong entry, or a when it slips, the fairings come off.
Those of Ducati, on the other hand, I imagine are fixed in a more solid way, because the wings are larger, the bulkier they have a greater moment to bear, and probably the material of which the fairing is made in that point where they are fixed I suppose with screws, will be thicker, but a few centimeters away the hull becomes thin again.
This means that in the event of contact you would have a flexion that acts further than the fixing area of the fin, the screw or the insert will not break as for Yamaha but an area of perhaps 10x10cm all around the fixing area because the The wall with the hull is very thin and, as we have already seen, breaks easily with touches and falls.
No wing can exceed the maximum overall dimensions of the bike (and Ducati "widened" the bike with a little trick).
Neither those of Yamaha nor those of Ducati.
Even the Yamaha ones don't pop off like anything.
They don't walk away with "nothing."
And if they “jump away with nothing” that's all the more reason to ban them (but that's not the case. They don't jump away).
They make little sense. They are of no use to a club (except to earn a few cents). And potentially dangerous.
They make little sense.
Ps: You don't know how much your speech made me laugh :) Thanks Ronnie, you made me smile :).
f.mette, both Rossi and Iannone were 1 or 2 tenths faster than Lorenzo after following Marquez and learning from him.
behind Marquez they were 3-4 tenths faster than Lorenzo.
The only difficulty I can identify with the Yamahas compared to the Honda and the Ducati is that they had less power, generated more fuel consumption or they both had tired engines, because they lost so much on the straight.
The only alibi that can be given to Rossi is perhaps that of consumption, which is why perhaps he didn't want to stay in front.
Although in my opinion he didn't do it because he didn't want to show his strong points to the others, even if Iannone had seen them, but he didn't want to show them to Marquez, but it was a 5tupid0 he thought he could cheat Marquez and win, instead he arrived fourth, he let himself be tempted too much, he had to take the race on Lorenzo, and even finishing third with Jorge fourth instead wanted too much and Marquez the newbie who arrived last made a perfect tactical race, more intelligent than Rossi's. He slowed down several times to put Iannone in battle with Rossi and abandon them on the spot.
I mean, excuse me...you useless being worth less than zero, do you have the courage to call Rossi stupid? you? To be insignificant? BUT were you on the bike or was Rossi? You who don't ride and don't understand anything about motorcycles or racing. But what do you know about Rossi's strategy? What do you know how much Rossi was at the limit? What do you know how much he pushed? It's not that Marquez had a tactically perfect race... because Rossi didn't want to have a race like Marquez's... it's not that he didn't want to catch up on Lorenzo, but maybe he couldn't. I swear you disgust me..
Your ignorance and your being "I know more than Rossi and in Australia I was on the M1 and Rossi at home" disgusts me.
Don't allow yourself to judge a driver anymore by calling him..., especially you, being useless ;)
Ahah poor Durim you are blinded by typhus, don't be a canary about...
I support Rossi but given the conditions, after a good start it was a very mediocre race from Rossi.
He made the wrong tactic from mid-race onwards, if we could ask him he would tell you too. You could see that in the garage he was all humiliated and not because Iannone beat him.
He was more pirl@ than Jorge… few stories.
Here many points were played when the advantage could still be increased.
He didn't compete on Jorge and he paid dearly for it, Marquez slowed down at a certain point, when Iannone overtook them both on the straight, they both took off the gas, Rossi lost the race, he made a lot of mistakes, he had to go there in front to pull, recover the last 6 tenths to pass Jorge and then be overtaken by Marquez and Iannone and continually bother Jorge to finish 3 and 4.
I repeat, in my opinion you are a disguised fan.....
it seems easy from the sofa to say all these things, when you're in a fight, when you're on the same times it's difficult, very difficult, as they didn't have all the sectors the same, one was stronger in one point rather than another, and you overtake and when overtaking they slow down a little, then see it as you want....
I will be wrong…. but even the track fans on Sunday can confirm it
It's clear that from home it's easy to criticize, but I'll tell you again, Marquez slowed down a lot in the big bend after the straight, Rossi didn't pass, and Iannone rejoined, Marquez picked up the bike, took his hand off the handlebars and did a very obvious nod to Rossi, go to the front and shoot now damn, I've got you within 6 tenths of Lorenzo.
Rossi didn't pass, on the straight Marquez still noticeably took off the gas expecting to be punctured by Rossi and instead Iannone passed both of them.
At that point Marquez got impatient and went to shoot again, for the last shot and behind they didn't do anything anymore...
@Ronnie! you are great!!
That is, not only are you on the track there with them, but listening to you seems like you have been in the minds of all the riders... with you they seem to talk to us
It seems like you saw a cartoon, where people talk without opening their mouths.
I've always said it..if I had Rossi's number I would recommend you to him..all this advice you give after the race is wasted..you should give it to Rossi before the start.
Having said that, you are a useless being who should not allow himself to be intelligent or judge a driver...you insignificant person who calls the greatest driver of all time "stupid"..
Hi Ronnie, many dear things
I've seen the race again now, and all these things you say don't really seem to have happened.
I saw overtaking and counter-overtaking at the limit by everyone, the only thing that was missing was Rossi's speed, he seemed stopped on the straight compared to Iannone and Marquez, so if he could also gain in the mixed, it was useless to throw away rubber if then they catch you on the straight, he tried to save it for the finale, but in the end they were all the same
In fact, given the way he was, in my opinion Iannone made a mistake, given the potential he had he could very well have won it... or am I wrong?!?!?
Ronnie “the supreme prophet from the track” dispenses pearls of cosmic wisdom. It's wonderful to watch a race with your own eyes on Sunday and then discover the next day that another truth exists...parallel worlds...teleportation and telekinesis (demonstrated by the fact that Ronnie at PI was sometimes on Iannone's tail, other times on that of Lorenzo to read the thoughts of Rossi and Marquez who were chasing).
Ronnie is a truly exceptional being, we must say thank you to him for sharing the only truth he gives us..
I like you, so I'll give you the times in detail, if you want, watch that part of the race again, and you'll see what I described.
Sixth round:
Lorenzo 1'29.968
Iannone 1'30.179 + 1.217
Rossi 1'30.559 +1.242
Marquez 1'30.943 +1.298
Seventh round:
Lorenzo 1'29.738
Marquez 1'29.874 +1.434 (overcomes 2 in one lap)
Iannone 1'30.202 +1.681
Rossi 1'30.393 +1.897
Eighth lap: (Marquez's COMEBACK BEGINS)
Lorenzo 1'29.835
Marquez 1'29.562 + 1.161 (0.273 sec recovered)
Rossi 1'29.369 +1.431 (Rossi overtakes Iannone and sets the best lap of the race at the moment)
Iannone 1'29.957 +1.803
Ninth round:
Lorenzo 1'29.921
Marquez 1'29.651 +0.891 (0.270 sec recovered)
Rossi 1'29.518 +1.028
Iannone 1'29.734 +1.616
Tenth round:
Lorenzo 1'29.928
Marquez 1'29.717 +0.680
Rossi 1'29.841 0.941
Iannone 1'29.757 +1.445
Eleventh lap: (17 LAPS TO GO) (END OF THE COMEBACK)
Lorenzo 1'29.891
Marquez 1'29.759 + 0.548 T1 21.377 / T4 25.050
Rossi 1'29.690 +0.740
Iannone 1'29.623 +1.177
Twelfth lap: (16 LAPS TO GO)
(Marquez slows down in T1 (big bend) to let Rossi pass, Marquez all over the outside, Rossi doesn't pass him)
(Marquez gets angry with Rossi, the times go up)
Lorenzo 1'29.797
Marquez 1'30.507 +1.258 T1 21.607 / T4 25.340
(see T1 of the first lap)(they lose 710 thousandths in one lap)
(look at T4 from the previous lap) (I think it's a left S Left right, on the right side Marquez gets up and gesticulates conspicuously)
Rossi 1'30.440
Iannone 1'30.015 (Iannone closes 4 tenths behind Rossi)
(then left again to enter the straight Marquez comes out slowly Rossi also Iannone overtakes them both)
(After 2 bends Marquez immediately overtakes Iannone, 2 bends pass Rossi overtakes Iannone again)
(SOUNDBITE MISTAKE BY ROSSI WHO DOESN'T WANT TO SHOOT AND HERE HE LOSES THE RACE, AND LOSES THE POINTS FROM LORENZO)
Start of thirteenth lap: (MARQUEZ'S SECOND COMEBACK BEGINS)
Lorenzo 1'29.783
Marquez 1'29.571 +1.046
Rossi 1'30.030 +1.630
Iannone 1'30.140 1.752
The twelfth lap is the key to the GP 16 laps to go, where Valentino lost 7 points to Jorge, with the decision not to overtake Marquez.
Ronnie, thank you for being nice, but I'm not interested in writing Monday news, I have eyes too.
It's your point of view, you saw that, and it's your thought, and I have mine, and in any case neither of us nor of those who write here are absolute, only they know what happened, and they will certainly never come and say it to a microphone because a journalist asks them the question.
we mere mortals can only speculate on what these aliens on two wheels are up to...
out of curiosity and any reasonable doubt I saw that gesture…..
the film tears off the visor…. that's all..
In my opinion, Marquez already had it from the start, he started the fight to help Lorenzo.
In my opinion, no, Marquez also said it, he did the last lap with his life lost as if he were in qualifying. Otherwise, when he took the lead halfway through the race, he would have left and instead lapped like Lorenzo when he was first.
Having a reference in front of you helps a lot, trust me…
If it's in my response.
I'm writing to you clearly that I am a motorcyclist, now a former track rider (given the prices that are available now I go there very little... This year one shift and that's enough to understand).
So I know perfectly well how much it helps to have a faster guy up front. However, this does not mean not working hard or saving everything that can be saved (as some users claim).
At the start of the race Marc declared that he couldn't feel the bike, he had problems on the front which were then resolved as the laps went by.
But all 3 of those who were behind Lorenzo today had more.
Just look at how they drove, the times they kept annoying each other and the times they did when they didn't fight each other.
Today the good Jorge was the "slowest" (I would sign myself for being so slow) of the 4, but he was better.
It's not a demerit for Jorge (indeed, it is for Iannone and Rossi who instead of fighting in the early stages could have waited, caught Lorenzo, passed and then played for the position towards the end), but an advantage to his race, let's be clear.
He was the best (except Marc), but he wasn't the fastest.
Then with the ifs and buts we are all world championship phenomena.
In my opinion Marquez always had more, if he wanted he would go away on the third lap saying goodbye to everyone, if he had done his race Lorenzo would have finished 4th.
If Marc really had any he would have left.
The level today was the same for everyone, some in one point, some in another, but the pace was the same for everyone. The only flaw the two Yamahas had was their speed, or at least for Rossi
unfortunately on every track you pay for the right compromise
In the guided part you could see the superiority of the blues, as well as the penalization on the long straights...
Then I was wrong, but that's how I saw it
And then he also said in the recent past that between the two, Rossi and Lorenzo, he would prefer the title to go to Valentino...
It is not possible for Marquez to help his closest rival, it is as if Rossi had helped Biaggi...
I never believed it, the two duels with Rossi this season were tied to his finger, the phenomenon Marquez is a parac...
Maybe it's because the world is now turning upside down, but I still don't understand. A Spaniard (Marquez) helping an Italian (Rossi), and an Italian (Iannone) helping a Spaniard (Lorenzo). But where the hell has the esprit de corps between compatriots gone??
I don't think anyone helps anyone. Everyone thinks about their own race and their own goals. In your opinion, how much would Marc or Iannone care if Rossi or Lorenzo wins the world championship? I think zero..iannone races for his results, marc for his goals. They wouldn't help Rossi and Lorenzo even if they were teammates, let alone help each other because they're Italian
@Durim
I think you're right. Now the reality of the facts is exactly what you described. But wasn't there once a sort of "code of honor" among Italians? In the sense that if someone was fighting for the world championship it certainly wouldn't have been another Italian who was "guilty" of having prevented him from winning it. Unless, of course, he was also in the running to win the title. At least these are the stories that old motorcyclists in my area tell. Rossi, as a great champion and sportsman that he is, complimented Andrea on how he raced, but he wonders if in Valencia he would miss those three points that Iannone took away from him today. If I were in Rossi's place, I would be a little pissed off in the centrifuge. But since (unfortunately) I am not in his place, much more realistically Vale would prefer to lose him rather than accept this kind of favoritism, given that in his career all the goals he has achieved have been earned by relying only on his own strength. Or am I wrong?
Sporty, only when it suits him... given that he complained that his bike was slower than Lorenzo's... it's a shame that Lorenzo had the 18th top speed compared to Rossi's seventh.
Slower than Lorenzo's bike there were only:
Barbera, Baz, Bradl, Elias, Haiden, West and Cludin…
Do I need to add anything else?
Lorenzo max 332 and average 330.6 km/h
Rossi max 337 and average 336,5 km/h
and just for the record...
Marquez max 338 and average 336.7
Iannone max 344.4 and average 343.9
But of course!
I mean, what was Iannone supposed to do? slow down and let it pass?daaaaiii
I think it would have been a bad gesture for the sport, not just for Rossi. And I doubt it's worth it, he would have appreciated it, in fact I'm sure of it. In fact, Vale complimented Iannone, and he isn't angry with Iannone, but with himself for not having reached Lorenzo when he was able to.
The next one will be better :)
'MUST' be better next time!
you're not wrong, hard. Of course today, even if the fisherman was there, I don't think he would have fared better than the maniac. Beautiful race, heart-stopping... damn... is it possible that this year Pedro and the maniac will have the best races of their careers? Let's hope he doesn't lose the world championship at the last race, after leading the entire championship. However, Vale is very strong even today, it's a shame they annoyed each other back there. GoValeGO!
this morning I was very disappointed with Rossi's result. Today a little less. Even though he was fourth, he was still competitive and fast. Then in my opinion this defeat stung him. It made him angry. And disappointment is the best starting point to come back stronger the next race. In my opinion this will give him a little more strength and concentration. Now there are 2 races left and he can't manage anything, he has to race without fear of falling or making mistakes... give his best.
However, I have faith in him...he still has the world championship in his hands :)
Let's hope it lasts
I too have faith, and I hope that already from Malaysia he will straighten out the situation a little...
What a race, what a race!!!! We can't help but congratulate Iannone, an amazing race.
For the first few laps, seeing him in the front made me think that unfortunately it wouldn't last and from the 5th lap, I began to hope that he wouldn't let himself get too far behind and that he would manage to get away from his rivals behind him, but who were still too close. Then the power of the Ducati engine brought him back down, which didn't last, but which "stabilized" him close to the top 3. Lap after lap, Iannone remained close to the leaders, Lorenzo took a margin, but not excessive, I couldn't to believe it, I was just waiting for the moment when the gap would increase, but the more time passed, the more excited I was about it, Iannone was up there with the best, he didn't want to give up ground. In this, the Ducati engine gave him a considerable hand on the straight, there's no doubt, but every bike has its strong and weak points.
Laughing and jumping on the sofa, we reached well beyond the halfway point of the race with Iannone still in the Vale exhaust, after having distanced his direct pursuers. Indeed, Iannone gets "tired" of setting the same times as Lorenzo, starts to go faster, overtakes Vale and closes the gap to 1 second from the first 2, Lorenzo and Marquez in that order, on the 20th lap, Iannone is 3rd half a second behind Lorenzo. “What's happening, am I awake or is the tiredness of the sleepless night playing tricks on me. Iannone still attached to the leaders and the race is coming to an end?” At this moment the craziest idea of the year takes hold, Iannone is able to win the race, competing in the dry with Vale Marquez and Lorenzo at the same time, a dream from which I wouldn't have wanted to wake up. Even the 22nd lap sees Iannone in second position, 3 tenths behind Lorenzo and, allow me to say it, but if Marquez had not attacked immediately, also favoring Valentino's overtaking, I am convinced that Iannone would have caught and jumped Lorenzo, unfortunately it is not It went like this, Marquez passed him, Vale followed him and Lorenzo took a slight margin over everyone else. Marquez - Vale fight which sees Iannone as the winner, during the 24th lap, a masterpiece overtaking by Iannone who passes both Marquez and Vale in one fell swoop and moves into 2nd position, but now with about 1 second behind Lorenzo . On the penultimate lap he gains a little on Lorenzo, but it is Merquez who, with an amazing lap, passes Iannone and Lorenzo and goes on to win an "ADRENALINICAL" race. Iannone faces Vale, is passed, but then, at the finish line, Iannone is 3rd, ahead of the most famous Italian, Valentino who this time is "seated" off the podium.
In the end, there was some controversy over the fact that Iannone took away some "world" points from the other Italian Valentino. I must admit, however, that I only heard these things on the news, I didn't hear the comments after the race. I just want to say that Iannone did what was expected of him, he took the Ducati as far as his abilities and qualities allowed him to take it, he did an amazing race and he had no reason to let Valentino get there third.
Dovizioso had a very "colorless" race so as not to be too "heavy", but to get 1 second per lap from his teammate... Since the latest changes arrived, including those to the engine, Dovizioso has performed races that were truly below expectations , Iannone, on the contrary, is doing the "phenomenon", always as long as it doesn't rain.
I completely agree….
honor and credit to Iannone and his Ducati, I don't agree with those who say about the alliance between Italians.
He ran his race, he fought like a lion, and he deserves that 3rd place, for me he could have done more, if not even won it... anyway he did what a driver must do when he races.... Point!!
I "voluntarily" chose to insert this part outside the previous one, because I suppose it will unleash a lot of insults, as the test supported by Valentino Rossi Domenica is taken into consideration.
I hasten to state that I certainly don't believe in "magheggi" and "rubbers" nowadays, on the contrary, I have the presumption to maintain that, from this point of view, they all start on an equal footing.
However, there is something to consider that happens often this year and perhaps, on Sunday, it happened in a more "sensational" way than usual. Let me start by saying that I am convinced that Vale gets a lot from Lorenzo's adjustments on race day, where it happens that the Pesarese laps at times that he didn't come close to in practice. Yes, we know that he is a racing "animal", but, precisely because of these improvements that often occur in racing, I think they are largely due to the solutions or at least the results obtained by Lorenzo, although many persist in saying that the their guidance is so different as to prevent any transfer. I counter this with the fact that Vale, just this year, changed his driving style and this may have led him to bring some of his characteristics closer to those of his main rival and teammate.
However, in free practice, even where (fp3) we tend to use a configuration very similar to that of qualifying to get into the top 10 and thus skip Q1, Vale lapped in 1.29.8. In Q2, Vale obtained seventh place with a time of 1.29.0. So far everything is fine, but if we look at the pace and times that Vale recorded in the race, there are a few "Inconsistencies". His fastest lap was 1.29.369, obtained on the 8th lap, with a full tank and with certainly not qualifying tyres. His pace was often 1.29.6, 1.29.7, times which he achieved only in very few circumstances in the tests.
In any case, once the controversy is over, credit where credit goes to Valentino Rossi for the skills he demonstrated (once again) during the race.
in a very recent interview by GPONE, Davide Brivio gave his opinion on this very fact. You can see the interview on their website, I'll summarize it briefly.
According to Davide Brivio, Lorenzo is a rider who manages to adapt to any setup, and therefore, even with different setups he does well. He feels good. For him the standard "setup" is already a good setup and he manages to go fast even with different setups, or less than perfect setups.
Rossi, secondly, is a more sensitive rider. So he feels even the small adjustments more and suffers from the feeling by going less fast.
What matters then: during practice Rossi runs much more than other riders on used tyres, always testing with a race perspective, perhaps slower but more constant. Plus, due to the fact that he is more sensitive, it takes him longer to find the setup. Sometimes he finds it between fp4 and q2 like in Motegi (where he almost took pole), sometimes he finds it in the warm up, sometimes after the warm up and sometimes he doesn't find it at all (races like Brno, or Jerez, or Misano... tracks where potentially strong or stronger in past years).
The fact that Rossi goes faster on Sundays, as Davide Brivio also claimed, is that during practice if he isn't in good shape he doesn't shoot at 100% on Sunday, whether he found the setup or he didn't find it at 100%. % and rides over the problems...a bit like Marquez does every time he is on top of the bike.
Sometimes the opposite also happened. At Brno Rossi was stronger in practice and a couple of tenths slower in the race.
The qualification is also clear. Rossi, being second or fourth in qualifying makes little difference. Because he loves to overtake and battle, and it's not a problem. For Lorenzo, qualification is everything. Just look at how angry he was for having gone third instead of second because of Iannone and how someone as fast at starts as Iannone could have penalized his "runaway" race. An extra position in qualifying would have changed nothing for Rossi.
BUT it's been like this for years... there are no rubbers or anything like that otherwise it couldn't be so constant.
You can analyze the times fp3, fp4 q2 etc.. but you can't find the "heart", the passion and the commitment that Rossi puts in on Sunday written down in any time list. That's what makes the difference. Rossi loves to race...and if he enters the race he finds that extra tenth, he puts in that extra 10%.
You are free to think however you want, but no one stays at the TOP of any sport for 20 years if not thanks to immense talent and incredible dedication and passion for their sport.
Durim, you took the words out of my mouth…..
It's useless Durim, have you seen who you're explaining to...?? If he likes to believe that the drivers' settings are interchangeable, let him believe it, nothing changes, everyone sees the "reality" that he wants to see.. Poor guy is happy like this..
Rossi's Sunday miracle-scam is no longer news ahahaha. There's nothing strange about it, why be surprised? Strictly behind in every session of testing, race pace lower than the competition, the race arrives... pace also improved by 4/ 5 tenths. Motoristically a miracle yes yes, only he can do it then. MAVAFFANKULOOOOOOOOOO SCAMMER OF MY COJONS AHAHAHA. I forgot, Marquez and Rossi have been competing for 3 seasons in Moto GP, I'll update you Marquez-Rossi 24-7... almost equal you agree agreement? Now some brain-damaged person will write Rossi 9 world championships over 100 victories. Marc wasn't there yet, imbecile idiots. Without Marc's races with zero points, Lorenzo and Rossi were playing for the title with the minkia. See you next time clowns fans of the scammer in yellow .
no no for goodness sake, brain damaged people are enough for you and leftovers.....