MotoGP Misano, Qualifying 2: Marquez, Pole and Record!
The world championship leader continues to amaze, fantastic pole ahead of Lorenzo and Rossi
Marc Marquez never ceases to amaze, as he won pole position and a new track record in the Misano qualifying session. The world championship leader, despite a crash in FP4, had no fear entering the track and pulling to the max. His 1:32.915 clearly beats the two Factory Yamahas, here on track with the new seamless gearbox, and lowers the 1'33.138 that Casey Stoner set in 2011.
For him it is the sixth pole position of the season and his possible victory tomorrow could effectively "close" the title discussion, at least from a moral point of view. A season worth remembering for Emilio Alzamora's protégé, who had amazed everyone since his first test with the MotoGP.
Jorge Lorenzo, second, is 513 thousandths of a second, while Valentino Rossi, who will start from the front row, is 658 thousandths behind. However, a very important front row for the Pesaro rider who last year finished the race in second position, when he was riding the Ducati.
Dani Pedrosa will instead open the second row, taking another nice "slap" from his team-mate Marquez. The difference between the two with the same bike is more than eight tenths, a gap that is starting to be embarrassing for the #26. The Spaniard will have Cal Crutchlow's Yamaha SAT next to him, and Aleix Espargarò's ART Aprilia, author of a fantastic performance. His gap from the Yamahas is only half a second, a fantastic "achievement" for the #41 of Team Aspar.
The two Honda RC213Vs of Stefan Bradl (Team LCR) and Alvaro Bautista (Team Gresini) will start in the third row, ahead of four Ducatis, those of the internal team of Andrea Dovizioso and Nicky Hayden and those of the Team Pramac of tester Michele Pirro and by Andrea Iannone.
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Marc is an excellent "monster", Jorge and vrr also went well, this time he deserved the front row, but here on this track he obviously has to go well, small disappointment Dani I thought he would go better. Tomorrow we expect an excellent race and let's hope for good weather and that no one crashes!
Marquez is super strong and he makes the difference, truly remarkable. I agree with the 3rd place of the Tavullian
I knew that Marc was a great handler, I had already noticed it in recent years but I didn't expect it, I was almost struck by the lack of N.1, the legendary Casey!
Ah, nonsense from the mediaset commentators, who have already nauseated me, where they continue to beat around the bush about the superiority of Honda which I don't see, the truth is that the bikes are better on one side and one is better on the other but in the end overall they are equal, the difference is made by Marc and Jorge over everyone else, EVERYONE!
What do you think about the observation regarding electronics?
That is: if Marquez had made his debut together with Lorenzo, would he have hurt himself as much as he did?
The electronics were much less refined and a small mistake could throw you first into the air and then to the ground.
It's a question I've asked myself several times, but in my ignorance I couldn't give a sensible answer.
Sorry, who did you ask?
to you,H95 rr
(and possibly to all those who want to have their say)
hum
H954RR
Well, I'll have my say, in my opinion Marc doesn't use electronics in an evasive way, I've noticed it on many occasions when he drifts like Casey and I believe that Jorge's many falls in the first few years depended on the fact that he didn't want to get them from his teammate and with the bike that wasn't the same he exceeded its limit by falling, the fact was clear when Jorge threatened to leave Yamaha for that fact, so I believe that if Jorge had had the same bike his start would have been similar to Marc's.
...H, look, tomorrow he wins by distance... at least on his track...
Hahaha, podium maybe yes but I don't think I'll win if Marc and Jorge don't screw up.
Honestly, I was pretty sure of Marc's pole, but I would have thought that Dani could have fought for it, but instead he's very far away, partly because of the traffic, partly because I don't see him being too convinced.
As far as Rossi is concerned, this track, together with that of Philip Island, is one of the best opportunities he has left, I don't know if he will get on the podium, but he will certainly be able to fight for that, perhaps even more; and with him Jorge.
The Aprilia-Espargarò pairing never ceases to amaze, I wonder if his own results convince him to stay, it would be a shame for him to leave.
And but Espargarò aspires to the official Yamaha after the first year in the satellite one, he's a smart guy and in any case the Yamaha that leaves Craccilo is better than the ART, I think.
I also believe that Cal's Yamaha is currently better than the Aprilia, but the ART remains a constantly improving bike on the border between motoGP and CRT (which will disappear next year, from what I understand).
I doubt the official Yamaha will see it, honestly. Then I understand that seeing his little brother on a Yamaha Tech3 he wants one too, but in his place I would think twice about it.
Sepang not Philip Island for the latter I see Marc after a Stoner domination.
Yes I believe so too.
Fp3:
Tue: 1.34.low
Ped: 1.34.low 1.34.medium
Lor: 1.34.medium
Val: 1.34.medium 1.34.high
Dv: 1.34.mezzohigh 1.35.bass
Woof: 1.34.medium 1.34.high
Bra: 1.34.high 1.35.low
Ian: 1.35.half
Hay: 1.34.high 1.35.medium
Cal: 1.34.high 1.35.low
Fp4:
Tue: 1.34.low
Lor: 1.34.low 1.34.medium
Woof: 1.34.half
Val: 1.34.half
Ped: 1.34.high????
Dv: 1.35.low
Cru: 1.35.mezzo
Bra: 1.35.low
Pir: 1.35.low 1.35.medium
Ian: 1.35.half
Hayden 12th 1.35.half.
Marc maintained.
Lorenzo approached him.
Bautista confirmed himself for the better.
Valentino as Bautista.
Pedrosa pushed the oars too far. Too slow to think it's a real gap
Dovizioso confirmed his performance for the worse, he also said that the FP3 times were achieved with new tyres.
Crutchlow got worse, probably acting like Dovizioso. However slow compared to his "usual".
Bradl is confirmed to be worse.
Pirro didn't appear in FP3, but here he runs with good times.
Iannone confirms his FP3 pace, removing any doubts about whether or not he can be faster.
Hayden is unfortunately doing his worst (I'm speaking in chronometric terms, not in terms of commitment and will), even if he manages to stay with Dovizioso in the race.
The 20 year old amazes more and more with each passing race!
Half a second per second…
And the second is Lorenzo!!!
For the electronics chapter...He declared that he is halfway between the use of Stoner and that of Pedrosa.
Well done Lorenzo and well done Valentino, but with a Marc like that there's little you can do....
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EVERYONE in the MotoGP environment agrees that Honda has had an advantage over the competition since the middle of last season...
EVERYONE (Except Honda XD men)!
There must be a reason...
Then obviously you have to exploit that bike, but the technical advantage is there (minimal, but that minimum means that the advantage is heavy in these conditions).
It's Lorenzo who manages to put a patch on it, but Honda has an advantage.
Back to qualifying…
Pedrosa???? Lost, who knows, maybe he had some problems seeing how he gestured in the box.
Cal has great difficulties, the falls in the last race (due to his bad arm) can be felt in terms of confidence.
Well honor to Espargaro, but….
His is a much more high-performance motorbike than that of the other ARTs (statements from engineer Monociglio). It has an engine with more HP than the others, plus an updated frame/forks/swingarm compared to its teammate.
Staying on the topic of ART…
Meanwhile Aprilia is bench-running next year's engine (with pneumatic valves and various updates), developing a new chassis and new electronics and related fairings... In short, it is making a new bike with the usual RSV4 base..
Ducati brings a quieter exhaust to the track... And MAYBE we will see the new bike in the winter tests...
I remember it had to come in THIS race!!!!
This difference compared to DePuniet is new to me, very interesting!
Well, I only see the Honda's advantage in the engine as I see the Yamaha's advantage in the chassis but in my opinion the bikes are the same overall, then oh.....
n75
Espargarò is the point of reference for Aprilia, and unibrow, a few races ago declared that his bike presented different evolutions compared to the other bikes.
Very right in my opinion.
But this must be underlined.
Aprilia with the CRT regulation is limited in several areas (Monociglio once again declared that the suspensions they use in SBK are better performing than those used in MotoGP, but also much more expensive)…
Next year will be different, and in fact Aprilia is preparing a great bike.
Hayden will easily be driving (who was in Noale a few days ago), with Espargarò Senior riding the Yamaha Forward.
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It's not true that they are equivalent...
Marc's drifts are supported by the bike, they are drifts made to close and not so much to make it skid..
Of course, you have to know how to do them.
They have also improved a lot in braking (their weak point in previous seasons), look at the trajectories they take when cornering...
And look how far Yamaha has to go…
The differences are minimal, but in this sport small equals large.
If EVERYONE agrees in affirming Honda's technical superiority there must be a reason... (Everyone except Honda obviously..).
Then you have to know how to exploit this superiority, and it's the pilot's job, but there is a superiority...
And it is thanks to Honda and the riders who contributed to this (especially Dovi...) that he has a technical superiority over the others.
Okay, in any case the biggest difference, more than the bikes, is made by Marc and Jorge over EVERYONE!
Did I perhaps write the opposite?…
You wrote that Honda and Yamaha are on equal terms, but that's not the case.
This is one of the few topics that all workers agree on.
There is no doubt which of the two is currently the best.
But this doesn't mean that Yamaha is a bad bike... On the contrary... Only Honda has a technical advantage..
Then the pilots take over…
But pilot is one thing.
Technical advantage of the motorcycle is another.
you are partly right
stoner the difference is made in ducati and honda
if there hadn't been stoner Lorenzo would have won another world championship...
same thing this year, Marquez is winning, not Honda.....
The difference that Stoner made in Ducati compared to his teammate, he didn't make with Honda...
Well bibo… Look how the Hondas are doing…
Honda has a technical advantage, we ALL agree on this, there must be a reason... Or not?
I tell you that if Stoner hadn't been there, the world championship would have been won. Mr. Dad buys me the team.
With ifs and buts, we don't get anywhere.
Yours has the same weight as mine.
Do you also read what you like like another user?
You wrote that Honda and Yamaha are on equal terms, but that's not the case.
This is one of the few topics that all workers agree on.
There is no doubt which of the two is currently the best.
But this doesn't mean that Yamaha is a bad bike... On the contrary... Only Honda has a technical advantage..
Then the pilots take over…
But pilot is one thing.
Technical advantage of the motorcycle is another.
If EVERYONE agrees in affirming Honda's technical superiority there must be a reason... (Everyone except Honda obviously..).
Then you have to know how to exploit this superiority, and it's the pilot's job, but there is a superiority...
And it is thanks to Honda and the riders who contributed to this (especially Dovi...) that he has a technical superiority over the others.
The idea I have is that Rossi liked the seamless more than Lorenzo... I ask the experts: but it's not that this new, softer gearbox when braking applies less engine braking and consequently reduces Lorenzo's braking ability as he uses less the brakes is consequently more the engine braking?
Thanks guys, look at the beautiful comments page without flame, keep going!!!