MotoGP Laguna Seca: Valentino Rossi “We lose too much in the middle of the corner”
Valentino Rossi finished the Red Bull US Grand Prix held at Laguna Seca in sixth position. The Ducati rider fought throughout the race with his team-mate Nicky Hayden finishing behind him. The gap to the leaders, however, remains heavy, today the nine-time world champion arrived over thirty seconds behind the winner Casey Stoner, a gap of almost a second per lap. The word is up to him.
“I don't think we will have a turning point in Brno. They are working in the company but they need time. In short, our problem is in the center of the corner, where the others go faster and I have no feeling at the front – said Rossi as reported by SportMediaset – So I always have to slow down too much. For now we are moving forward with the development of the GP11.1, even if we are suffering too much. I struggled a lot until the end because I had Hayden attacking until the last lap. I lapped hard and at least I'm the first Ducati in the standings. Right now we have to make do because we have so many problems. On the other hand, with Burgess' return this weekend we worked well and I also made a good start. It's a shame that to keep up the pace the front started to close and so I had to drop from the front. I fought with Simoncelli in the initial stages, but then I didn't have the pace to go with them. Our goal is to recover the 10 second deficit from the chasing group where Marco and Dovizioso are. Because for now we are suffering too much.”
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First of the ducati…. but I wouldn't want them to always have to slow down the other Ducatis on the track...
It's worth a lot... anyone who watched the race yesterday clearly saw the risks he took in the first laps to try to maintain a pace which unfortunately is far from the bike's capabilities. It will be the setup, the way of riding, the engine or the chassis... in any case, as always, he demonstrated incredible courage and courage, taking certain risks at two hundred an hour in the bends of Laguna Seca with the bike skidding in all directions only demonstrates the desire that still motivates Valentino... come on. it's worth ducats... and those who criticize gratuitously either don't realize what they're saying or are simply envious of what's worth they have given... and will give to this fantastic sport... yesterday they were all heroes!!!
But why Stoner qualifying at the dry lagoon
in 2010 he beat Ducati by more than a second
faster than Rossi on a Ducati in 2011?
Stoner/ Ducati 01:21.169, in 2010
Rossi/Ducati 1:22.235 in 2015
It's not like Rossi had an influence
negatively the development of Ducati?????
It must be said that the only thing worth is questioning is taking the risk to look for an improvement of using a prototype which at the moment seems much inferior to the GP11... barbera, hyden, abrham, rdp, they are good riders but with the same bike it is worth defeating them ….it has always done it and always will do it… we can bet that when the bike is ready and successful everyone will be there to want to ride a Ducati…..
ps go and see the partials at t3 of the entire race weekend and then tell me what it's worth, he's not a great driver...he's still one of the best in the world...and it's discovering the hot water...since he already is legend all over the world…
I correct myself: Rossi in 2011
And stoner was in qualifying
in 2010 with the Ducati even faster
this year with Honda==1:21.274, 2011
Stoner/Ducati =1:21.169, 2010
the figures speak for themselves!
I wonder how it is possible that Ducati cannot overcome this difficult moment. This isn't nonsense, but Rossi himself says that they have a few kilometers per hour less when cornering, and it's very serious, could it be that such a serious problem isn't solved (or at least contained)?
It seems to me that Rossi only knows how to do it
the “Melandrino”!!!
In Ducati, since Rossi has been there
just confusion!
I'm only sorry for Preziosi, who for
I'm a genius that the world envies us!
I'm sorry, but the comparison with Stoner, on the same track (but with an old bike for the Australian) in the same weather conditions is merciless to say the least...
If they had both been in Ducati, at this point Rossi would have already returned the money and looked for an F1 team to have fun.
I read the comments above and it shows how we are all suffering from Valentino's poor results. I continue to be negatively surprised by the set-up of the bike, everyone saw how high the bike was from the ground and pumped on exit and was soft at the front in detachment. I keep saying that not even a newbie would make these mistakes. I hope they find their way back. As for the salary, I would give it back!
he was a good stoner in ducati yes, but maybe he was better at falling with his butt on the ground!
stoner is just a presumptuous braggart who always makes excuses and never takes responsibility, he only knows how to provoke and if you make him a fart he becomes depressed!
I am a huge fan of Rossi and I would like to ask him why Stoner was doing as well with the Ducati as he is with the Japanese bike and he can't find this blessed feeling - Go Valentino we are waiting for you....
GUYS THE CLASS OF A PILOT LIKE ROSSI IS NOT DISCUSSED, BUT IT IS OUT OF A DOUBT THAT IN REGARD TO SPECIFIC ARROGANCE HE IS THE ONLY PRESENT, GUYS OBSERVE AND LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS ABOUT OTHER PILOTS DEFINED AS ROSICATORS IN HIS HISTORY, IT MAKES A DOUBT CHAMPION OF 9 TITLES AND BY AGE YOUNG 32 YEARS IN THE HEART OF POWER AND TECHNIQUE THAT WHAT HE HAS DONE ON ALREADY READY MOTORCYCLES IS NOT THE OLYMPUS BUT AN COMMON RIDER WHO HAS MADE HIM'S LIFE EASY…. SO EASY THAT TODAY HE ROSE
I MEAN TO SAY THAT THE MEMORY MUST NOT BE BLURRED, MR ROSSI HAS ALWAYS CLAIMED THAT IT IS THE RIDER WHO MUST ADAPT TO THE MOTORCYCLE, DO YOU REMEMBER THE YEARS OF THE THOUSAND WITH RIDERS OF THE CALIBER OF BIAGGI, GIBERNAU, MELANDRI "MOVISTAR"? AND OTHERS...TODAY., HE DEFINED THEM AND DEFINED THEM PIPPS BECAUSE THEY GREW BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T ADAPT. TODAY HONDA HAS CREATED A GROUP NOT A RIDER AND IT WILL WIN NO MATTER WITH WHOM BUT IT WINS..., ANOTHER THING: TODAY IT DOES THE BLOWJOBS AND HOW IT DOES THEM, A NIT HERE A NIT THERE BUT IF IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ADAPT THE I DOUBT THAT HE WAS A BUILT AND NOT TALENTED PILOT.
but the problem in my opinion is that one tire cannot be suitable for such different chassis chassis bikes! the Ducati cannot run with the tires fitted to the Honda and vice versa!!!!! the problem is there no one says it but that is where it is it makes the difference!!!
Vale showed it yesterday..he risked falling a couple of times..but he was tenacious..the bike moved too much at times..Hayden's was more stable...slowly the results will arrive, if not this one. next year for sure because with the 1000 things change...
but sorry... a rider who won in 125, 250, 500, in MotoGP with Honda and then on Yamaha, with 1000 and 800... 9 titles, 105 victories, 175 podiums, etc... but how can you define a pilot like this as a constructed phenomenon? from who? for who!? and then, why him and not, for example, biaggi.. or melandri.. or capi..?! or a non-Italian pilot, to be built?? so why not also say the same about agostini.. or doohan.. all constructed phenomena..!? Shumacher in F1!? he built it too!? Wouldn't it be more correct instead to give him the respect he deserves because of his deeds, and wait for him to understand what isn't working!? after so many years at the top (since 96!!!!), can a driver find himself in difficulty... or is it not allowed!!?? and then, sorry... but stoner, he's good, fast, courageous... there's no arguing! but without electronics that boy was nicknamed rolling stoner... he may have grown up and matured now, but let's not forget it!!!!
But when will you stop making Stoner-Rossi comparisons? Every time you say the same bullshit, last year a stoner here, last year a stoner there.... Why doesn't anyone remember how many times they went to stoner land last year? And when he ABANDONED the team and the fans because he had stomach pain? Have you already forgotten?
A 50mm fork will save the Ducati season, you just need to decide on the big change, the bike is like a woman, you have to give her what she wants... and then, stop denigrating Rossi, who is the best rider in the world in the modern era and stop it to talk about Stoner, the Australian now rides a Honda and is going very well, he certainly won't return to Ducati!
Regardless of Rossi's skill, Hayden isn't the last idiot either and yet he doesn't go either... This says a lot and given that in Ducati it's absurd to continue like this and Honda and Yamaha no longer want him the only one solution is to go to SBK where it would make the championship much more interesting. And then looking at the two categories, MotoGP is honestly really boring and is a given, the usual ones always win with huge gaps between the top 2 or 3 and the others.
Just write who Stoner was
at Laguna Secca in Qualifying in 2010
even faster on the Ducati
this year on the Honda, which some people are pissing off!!! The truth hurts you
or they are growing angry
pimples in the butt?
Since last year the track conditions have worsened. Then I don't think there is any doubt about the fact that Stoner would be able to do much better with Ducati than Rossi
Stoner better than Rossi? The numbers say yes for now, but Rossi has always been more concrete than him, at the same time, despite winning fewer races, he has won one more world championship (not by much). As Agostini said, at 32 you are more concrete, experience balances recklessness, but perhaps something is lost in the approach to speed, and you don't throw yourself completely out onto the track. But I believe in Valentino and I am confident of finding him on the podium again this year
Rossi has already beaten them all from Lorenzo to Biaggi and he, the strongest rider ever, will win again, everyone knows it
Rossi is the last hope of Ducati and vice versa after Rossi no good rider will want to go there if they don't get out of this crisis they will make it
Put it as you want, spin it as you like but Rossi's results are HIGHLY BELOW EXPECTATIONS (it couldn't have been worse than this until now)
Everyone thought that upon his arrival he could literally smash the competition, but not only are the results disappointing but he seems to have brought Ducati and its philosophy into an abyss by wanting to upset a motorbike that is not a Japanese one at will... the motorbike only had need a step instead they continue to make enormous changes, always losing the main road.
The sponsors, the shareholders, the fans will not be willing to put up with a similar situation for long, they won't care who Rossi was and will give him a good kick in the ass.
The fact is that this is the worst Ducati ever... the worsening came in the winter when everyone drooled over the "doctor" and began to follow him on equal footing thinking that his words/indications were those of God!! !!!!
Guys... there is only one truth: on one side there are our fantasies, our emotions, our delusions, and all the other "monsters" that "cheering" manages to generate.
On the other side are the simple facts. And the truth lies only in the latter. Point.
What are the facts that no one is able to take into consideration in their entirety?
The facts are that:
1. No one, before Rossi, and perhaps not even after, managed to ride a Ducati MotoGP with even the slightest positive result from Capirossi to Melandri to Hayden himself (even Biaggi had tried it at the time) And we're talking about real champions! Therefore, Ducati has always been the usual losing bike from its creation to the present day (and this is a fact, sorry) while Valentino cannot have suddenly become a "gun".
Was Stoner winning? Real. However, it is the most classic of exceptions which confirms the facts above. He managed to create such a mysterious and astonishing "chemistry" with the vehicle that he still paid a high price: so much so that he had to cure various exhaustions while he was with Ducati.
2. VR's talent not only as a rider but also as a motorcycle developer is indisputable: before he arrived, Yamaha was in an even deeper abyss than Ducati. So much so that in this championship Lorenzo had to return - coincidentally - to the 2010 bike which is still the one developed by Valentino.
3. The monotyre is the most gross bullshit that the sublime minds at Dorna could conceive. It's pure madness at that level: just as it is in F1.
4. Electronics level out technical driving skills, and allow even drivers who would actually be mediocre to become phenomena.
These are irrefutable facts, then we can continue for years to say that Valentino is just an idiot who in life has only had kuls and "help"... too bad that then neither luck nor help gets on the bikes, but only a common mortal who must be able to go at 300 km/h and manage to achieve two sidereal results: the first is not to kill himself, the second is to win 9 world titles and a bunch with all the bikes and in all the categories:
Do it yourself.
;-)
Guys... there is only one truth: on the one hand there are our fantasies, our emotions, our delusions, and all the other "monsters" that "cheering" manages to generate.
On the other side are the simple facts. And the truth lies only in the latter. Point.
What are the facts that no one is able to take into consideration in their entirety?
The facts are that:
1. No one, before Rossi, and perhaps not even after, managed to ride a Ducati MotoGP with even the slightest positive result from Capirossi to Melandri to Hayden himself (even Biaggi had tried it at the time) And we're talking about real champions! Therefore, Ducati has always been the usual losing bike from its creation to the present day (and this is a fact, sorry) while Valentino cannot have suddenly become a "gun".
Was Stoner winning? Real. However, it is the most classic of exceptions which confirms the facts above. He managed to create such a mysterious and astonishing "chemistry" with the vehicle that he still paid a high price: so much so that he had to cure various exhaustions while he was with Ducati.
2. VR's talent not only as a rider but also as a motorcycle developer is indisputable: before he arrived, Yamaha was in an even deeper abyss than Ducati. So much so that in this championship Lorenzo had to return - coincidentally - to the 2010 bike which is still the one developed by Valentino.
3. The monotyre is the most gross bullshit that the sublime minds at Dorna could conceive. It's pure madness at that level: just as it is in F1.
4. Electronics level out technical driving skills, and allow even drivers who would actually be mediocre to become phenomena.
These are irrefutable facts, then we can continue for years to say that Valentino is just an idiot who in life has only had kuls and "help"... too bad that then neither luck nor help gets on the bikes, but only a common mortal who must be able to go at 300 km/h and manage to achieve two sidereal results: the first is not to kill himself, the second is to win 9 and a half world titles with all motorbikes and in all categories:
Do it yourself.
;-)
However, Ducati has shown that its project is wrong, the tires are made for bikes that flex in a different way (i.e. with a traditional aluminum frame) and even Hayden has many more problems today than last year.
(source: Guareschi)
Two more things:
1. Rossi is not the instinctive rider that Stoner is and with a bike like this he suffers more and is slower;
2. Rossi's goal is not to go fast with the current bike, but to make the Ducati a better bike, that is, successful and capable of going fast not only with one rider.
…so if he succeeds he will prove beyond any reasonable doubt that he is a greater rider than the Australian, the second objective being much more challenging and ambitious than the first.
When Stoner won the championship with Ducati it was the year in which the Bridgestones were the top and the Michelins didn't finish the races...
The following year Rossi mounted Bridgestone, how did it go?!!!
It's obvious that the Stoner Ducati Bridgestone package was strong, we forget that only he rode that Ducati well...
Even Capirossi risked winning the world championship with Ducati, when Hayden won it, unfortunately Gibernau, also Ducati knocked him out and made him lose 3 races...
With the 800 Capirossi also never went as fast as Stoner.
I hope we can fix this Ducati soon.
Last consideration: when Rossi moved to Yamaha he was only able to try it in January but for a long time, now due to cost reduction the tests are limited, inevitably the difficulties are greater now...
Hello!
We're now waiting for 2012 to see if red ducatis work, if not, let's change the rules, come on
In 2012, in my humble opinion, we will see divorce. Unless… the 1000 goes like lightning straight away!