MotoGP Estoril: Valentino Rossi “Today I managed to feel better on the bike”
The Pesaro native is improving, but he still has to understand how to put all the horsepower on his Ducati to the ground
Valentino Rossi finished the race in Estoril in 7th place improvement compared to the first two races. The progress was seen not so much in the final position, which improved slightly compared to Losail and Jerez, but in relation to the pace kept in the race: Rossi ran with a better pace than that of Bradl and Spies, riders who until last week had been far faster than him. So Hayden's set-up is also adapting well to the bike from Pesaro, now in tomorrow's test and in the next races we must try to mend the Tech3 team pairing.
“This time it went a little better, in the sense that on Friday we started from a better base and, over the course of the weekend, we managed to prepare for today – said Valentino Rossi – I was able to face the race knowing what to expect from the bike and as a result I was able to push harder, to get a little closer to the limit. The first laps were good, I gained a few positions and then I maintained a constant pace with the times we expected. Let's say that we have exploited the potential that can be achieved at the moment and from here we will have to work to technically take a step forward. We have to improve when exiting corners, in acceleration, because at the moment we can't be as effective as the others since we can't put all the power on the ground. Tomorrow we have a day of testing, we will start working on it. In any case, in the meantime, today I also managed to have fun.”
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but if he has as many horses as they say, why is he like the others in tuition?
@luca ... in Estoril there are no big straights so what you would gain in max speed at the end of the straight you lose at the start in acceleration ... but if you looked in Qatar the Ducatis in max speed were in the top positions !!!! the engine is a monster but too much!!! Look, Yamaha's engine has never been a blast but it's very drivable and therefore always at the top!!!
and then if you look at the title of this post it already says a lot!!! the power without control and nothing!!!! if you don't dump them on the ground the bike is stopped!!!!
even if it goes better the result is still more or less 9 tenths 1 second on the flying lap than on the race pace
As a very famous engineer said.
“The important thing is not the number of horses, but unloading them on the ground”…
Let's hope that some of the problems will be resolved tomorrow with the new features, even if hopes are over in the second Sepang test....
Anyway, is Hayden boiled?!?
Nobody talks about it?!?
If Rossi got 1 minute, nothing but insults...
Bah, poor things!
I'll take care of the insults: 14 million per season for the great test driver with the second in the wrist for a seventh place and for not knowing how to put the power on the ground? and Ducati continues to get worse, going in Rossi's direction? (see Hayden's results from 2009)
And Rossi has the bike modified to his liking and then uses Hayden's setups??? But shame on him! and who tries to stay ahead of Barbera in qualifying!
Look, if Rossi says how the bike behaves and Ducati doesn't do anything, it's not Rossi's fault.
Hey Balabiott, look, the book of excuses has run out of pages.
The sponsors pay the salary, certainly not Ducati....
If he takes that amount it means that he brings in MANY more... Go and see the motorbikes sold by Ducati in the past year and its balance sheet....
Use your brain!!!!!
Meanwhile Ducati is sold to AUDI with 300 MILLION in debt, I repeat 300 MILLION!!!
Given that it is the rider who makes the difference, the vehicles must mostly be equivalent... and Ducati is currently closer to the CRTs than to the Jappes..
Vale's positive words seem to come more from the contract than from the heart
After the quatar's shot he gives Rossi a sop on request...
I hope he's more pissed off when he needs to be, i.e. in testing on the track... and with the engineers....
This positivity 20 seconds from the podium seems really false...
use it yourself
what do you think that the income he had is enough to pay valentino burgess and mechanics??
We will NEVER know what happens to Hayden, as the medaset newsagent only put the microphone under the mouth of 46, and for once Mr. was interviewed (3rd place in the Jerez qualifications). Beltramo only asked him this question "why is Rossi 13th at 3.5 seconds" this is the information we have.
to make matters worse, I can answer instead of Niky
"I'm so behind in that I switched my settings to red"
Ric @
to be exact they are +26.797, you know they are not the same as 20.
20, 30 or 40 what changes??!
An infinity….
14 million for figures of s**t that are unparalleled.
Nicky…hi, I'm the big developer, can you lend me the set-up? please!
Yes because with mine I took 3 and a half seconds!
Actually four and a half if you consider the second in the wrist!!! ahahhahahahaha!!!!
gigetto/bibo
Sponsors are not sales… Maybe you don't know how to read…
You know what a giant Ducati has behind it (in terms of sponsors), right?!?
But perhaps I'm asking too much from someone who has been following the world championship for a few years...
Marco
On the other hand, however, he thanks Rossi for having given the instructions to build the "fastest Ducati I have ever ridden"....
In quotation marks I quoted Hayden's statement made in an interview not long ago.
Unfortunately today Rossi did his dirty work. You can't complain about anything this time. Except attack with the same old story.
well done bcs, in fact the sponsors are very happy!
To be honest Nicky had a serious problem "due to a radio signal that interfered with the transponder of the control unit, he had to drive from the first lap with the electronic calibrations out of phase." (cit. Guareschi) So I think that judgment can be suspended for this race. However, I don't think he could have undermined Rossi who, in my opinion, had a good performance today.
How sad... let's just hope for the DucAudi now!
for those who say that following Rossi's instructions the Ducati has gotten worse...
Ducati TRIES to follow Rossi's instructions, but evidently CANNOT...as demonstrated by Rossi and Hayden's performances.
you can try to do a lot of things, but you don't necessarily succeed.
for example, it is not certain that it will be possible to translate the sensations of a rider, and his ideas on how a motorbike goes and how it should go (absolutely empirical matter), into a mechanical vehicle.
they upset the bike to try to win, if they hadn't touched it they would have been further ahead and would have saved themselves a fool, but victory and podiums were not within Rossi's reach anyway, given that his riding style causes clashes with the ducatone.
but nothing would have changed, certain scum shoveled shit on him even when he dominated, go figure!
so Hayden says that the indications given to her by number 46, and I believe him, but as you know these indications are a failure because NEVER has there been a Ducati so far behind and with only two lucky podiums for the entire year of 2011, I don't know about 2012 I pronounce but I think we are on the same levels, and after a thousand changes, from the BCS be a little objective, last year the last time they used the GP 11 was on this track, Rossi 6th at around 16" look at you today's times and gaps. Then came GP 11.1 and it always got worse.
The Doctor is there but the bike is a little less so, who knows, come on, they won't make it.
in my opinion if Stoner had been driving he would have won three out of three, for ducati think about it make him an offer he can't refuse :-)
wilsic how's the ulcer going…
I think the problem is that Rossi asked Ducati for things to be able to ride the bike the way he wants, but Ducati was unable to give them to him. In fact, Vale tried to put the setting on the Red that allowed him to ride as he knows how. Too bad it doesn't work on the Ducati and sadly he had to take Hayden's and change his riding style. Let's remember that the GP12 is a completely new bike, both in terms of chassis and engine and it certainly has some youth problems, which are unfortunately a bit serious.
first ducati at +0,26 and the others at +0,56e + 1, …..and thank goodness the ducati makes the difference!!!! I'm hoping for a new engine, otherwise we're down!!!! great red!!! today the anti-reds don't say that you gave 35 seconds to your teammate???? now I do like them!!! electronics??? but stop with the excuses!!! it's not true Haiden I believe in you for the redhead and especially for the redheads but it was to go against the anti-redheads!!! in jerez they broke down saying that you can't get within 5 seconds of haiden but they didn't say that you started 13th and finished 8th behind haiden!!!! you always are the racing animal, it's the monster under your ass that isn't worthy of you!!!
@Andrew….
MEGAGALACTIC QUOTONE ABBESTIA WITH TRIPLE SCREW AND A LITTLE PIKE THAT NEVER HURTS... :D
last race Hayden starts 3 Rossi 13 and they arrive almost together... despite Rossi having tried that type of set-up for the first time...
Everyone caused tragedies because Rossi was 5 seconds behind Hayden at the finish line... no one pointed out that he started 10 positions behind with a set-up that was unknown to him...
Today the doctor gave 26' to the boastful Barberá and 62' to the good Hayden... EVERYONE is silent!!!!
Shame on you, ANTI-RED HYPOCRITIES who have nothing to do with the good motorbike fan/enthusiast.
Aeneas
EDIT: the good Hayden gives "only" 35... 62 is the gap from the top
Note that Hayden catches more from Rossi than Rossi from the top... ;)
Aeneas
liver liver liver….crushed!!!
Words by V.Rossi
ahahahahahahaha
Make yourself understandable... even if it is difficult for you.
Aeneas
misunderstood "genius"...
(still better than “curious dolphin” though…)
Aeneas, I was saying that your words taste like rotting liver. Now tell me you understand!
“Rotting liver” no worries…. the doctor's 9 world championships have made my liver invulnerable... hihihi think about your liver rather than in the 10 years of Rossiano's rule it will have been devastated many times... heheheh :D
Aeneas
Rossi's liver is rotting, even my grandmother understood it... I thought that yours (as a fan with salty eyes) was also pretty rotten... or at least that's how it seemed when I saw you climbing on the glass.
If you are calm then good for you! you happy, I'm happy!
But you still beat her with the guts... Rossi could stop tomorrow, and he would stop calmly having won everything and in all the categories... the only one in history to have won in 4 categories, and having also beaten various Stoners and Lorenzo (whom I have always respected together anyway to the great Biaggi) etc etc…
Several of the doctor's races will go down in history, Catalunya and Laguna for example... races that made you tip over from your seat... tell me how many races of Lorenzo or Stoner will go down in history...
I say all this not because I am a Rossian with salami over my eyes... I supported and still support Biaggi, and I have always supported Stoner since he was always tumbling in 250, but he was already showing that he had a great handle...
I didn't like Rossi in Biaggi's time, but you can't help but bow before the greatest motorcycle rider ever...
that's all.
Aeneas
There's a world of difference between being a strong wheel-to-wheel smart guy and a world-class driver.
It would be enough for you to think about what Stoner did with the Ducati and Lorenzo on the same bike, definitively ending his career.
Then if you get excited on command when Meda tells you to get on the sofa, that's your problem... EVEN BIG, I'D SAY!!! :D
Look, to enter the Olympus of motorcycling it's not enough to be fast and drift... I repeat that I have always esteemed and followed both Stoner, Lore and Biaggi. When it comes to pure speed, Rossi envies nothing either of Lore or Stoner and he has amply demonstrated it... and people much more authoritative than you, me or Meda have reiterated it over the years… hehehe :D
It is undeniable, however, that in addition to speed, Rossi has something more than the other 3... what you belittle by calling "being clever in wheel-to-wheel" is much more than what you want to make it appear... that is the racing animal that it comes out to you (if you have it) right in the melee... and here it is simply unique... look back on youtube laguna, catalunya and you will understand... a bit like the historian Gilles-Arnoux....
If you are happy to see Stoner's rubber smoking as he drifts... ;)
Aeneas
if he had nothing to envy why did he run away from Yamaha? why didn't he accept the confrontation, FOR ONCE, on equal terms?
and on the fact that he could retire tomorrow, here you are satisfied:
http://www.corriere.it/sport/12_maggio_08/valentino-rossi-ritiro_ca55932a-98e2-11e1-a280-1e18500845d6.shtml
You can't judge a rider by one episode... I too am a fan of Rossi, I would have preferred him to stay with Yamaha, but I can't help but understand his behavior... a rider as fast as you arrives in the team, but 10 years younger... with the same performance they would have in any case and obviously the youngest is the favourite... Lorenzo is a very fast rider, but he is not the phenomenon that Rossi was... and time will prove me right... and so would someone who really knows about motorbikes...
Rossi didn't want to risk becoming second driver, and chose a new challenge... winning with Ducati too.
If the bike improves and reaches 3/4th place, then you will see Vale regain that stimulus and that extra half second that it has in the wrist... but which will hardly come out of you to do 10 instead of 11... especially after you have already won 9 world championships... ;)
Aeneas
I'll start by saying that I've always supported Rossi, I've been following Moto GP for several years and I admit that after a year and a half on the Ducati, in my opinion, not even Vale or the technicians who followed him are understanding anything anymore as they had experience on the Japanese, I the ducati is something else...this is a marriage that was forced, Rossi is not suited to a ducati and this is not a criticism of the rider but just a fact.
but it is certainly a criticism of the bike, fully shared!
Dear ROSSI, you literally made SHIT, you were lapping on average at one second (and +) but since your fans have gotten used to seeing you lapping even at 3 seconds they say that you have improved..... congratulations!!!
But why do you have to say bullshit even when you really can't…. Rossi has given an abyss to all his brand mates... if they have REAL motorbikes in front of him, while he has a Lambretta, what can he do???
Aeneas
Meanwhile, it's the first time he's been in front of his partner and then seeing as he gets 15 million euros and is the god on earth if you allow me I'd say it literally sucks...... I don't see him smiling anymore like he used to when he made fun of others!!!! …. now we also rejoice for these results... BUT GOAAAA!!!
Brains are now optional... in the first race he was kicked out by Barberà, in the second he started ten positions behind Hayden due to the wrong set-up... despite this handicap he lapped at the same times as his teammates, arriving just behind... at Estoril they started together... and they arrived…. hahahaha these are the values in the field among Ducati riders... and this is the current value of Ducati Moto. Still with these 15 million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Aeneas
when they distributed ignorance you went around twice! :D
Obviously you distributed it... since you had some left over... and you still have some left over... ;)
Aeneas
:D
Well, what can I say, a little safer, the fact that he took Hayden's instructions certainly doesn't speak in his favour, but since I'm not really a Rossi lover this time I don't feel like criticizing him. He MUST be the first of the Ducati fans, if he can do it like at Estoril then he can talk, but if he takes them from all the other Ducatis he doesn't! Here it didn't go so bad, even if the lap gap is still too much.
We all know Hayden...he's an excellent Team-Mate, but not one of those who dictates the pace or acts as a hare...apart from the technical inconvenience I don't think he would have finished ahead of bradl-spies!
He would have certainly had a nail-biting race! :(
I still trust in Rossi's abilities.
I don't believe at all that the set-up used is made by Hayden...Rossi doesn't even use other people's wheels to set times (like Barbera)
As biased as my comment may seem (and it is as objective as possible), I am certain that the working methods between the two pilots are totally different, and I trust that of the two the most effective in obtaining the maximum are those of the 46&Co.
Welcome to MotoGP2012...how many overtakings were there yesterday?
3?
4?
We sincerely hope that 46 will be able to stir up some discord at the top, or in the immediate vicinity... only in this way redists and anti-redists will have something concrete to write/talk about... and something exciting to watch on TV on the day of the GPs!! !
Above all: where were those 3/4 overtakings carried out?
Answer: in the CRT group or a little further.
How exciting this solitary-men MotoGP!
@Angelino:
Your question alone clearly highlights that you have NOT understood a thing of what I'm trying to say.
You and all those like you, who are a crowd here!
I don't have an ulcer and never have had it.
My life is made up of (much) more and this place for me is a simple pastime during a coffee break: I have a lot of fun reading people like you.
After all, we all know that clowns are made to make people laugh...
You are the ones who constantly gnaw because if it weren't so, you wouldn't write what you write, but ABOVE ALL, you wouldn't write it the way you write it!
Mmmuuuuhahahahahahah!
…in the way you write it!
eee, these are Italian lessons guys!!!
Never miss the "pearls" of W_il_Sic again, which distributes culture during coffee breaks!!!
Always better than your bullshit pearls ;)
Aeneas
in fact, I could never compete!!!
Of course you can see that you have much more in life...
but your job is to take coffee breaks.
Rossi rise again otherwise Wilsic will also get trembling hands from too much coffee.
I don't understand why for the redists your idol is always exempt from being discussed... even when it makes people laugh as it has for three years now
brrrr what brute force the Ducaudi has!
@lemmy
in what sense has 46 made people laugh for three years now?
46 has made me laugh since 1996...and that's why I've always liked it!! :)