MotoGP Barcelona, Qualifying 2: Pedrosa takes the pole position of the Catalunya GP
Second pole of the year for the Spaniard from Honda, Rossi is only seventh
Dani Pedrosa obtained the pole position of the Catalunya Grand Prix, sixth stage of the 2013 world championship. The Repsol Honda Team rider (at his second pole of 2013) obtained it with a time of 1:40.893, a new record on the Spanish track . The record belonged to Casey Stoner, who in 2008 lapped in 1'41.186. For him it is the twenty-sixth pole in MotoGP, the second of the year after the one obtained at Mugello, also the one with a record.
Two Yamahas will start in the front row with Pedrosa, the SAT of Cal Crutchlow's Team Tech 3 and the Factory of Jorge Lorenzo, who however has a gap from the top of almost seven tenths. The reigning champion seemed to be in more difficulty than in the other qualifying sessions held so far, but still managed to grab a very important front row spot.
Alvaro Bautista, Team Gresini rider, will open the second row. The Spaniard #19 lapped in 1:41.714, a time that allowed him to keep behind the first Ducati, that of the American Nicky Hayden, who was very fast this morning. Kentucki Kid is ahead of Honda rookie Marc Marquez, who will therefore start from the second row in his home Grand Prix.
Valentino Rossi was only seventh and once again failed to be effective in qualifying. Yesterday after the tests the Yamaha rider from Pesaro had given precise indications; he needed the front row to fight for the victory, or start in the top five to fight for the podium. As mentioned, he is seventh and therefore "outside" of what he had set himself. However, we will see if tomorrow in the race on a track he loves and the scene of the famous overtaking on Jorge Lorenzo at the last corner in 2009, he will be able to move up the rankings.
Behind the nine-time world champion to close the Top Ten we find the Ducatis of the two Andrea, Iannone (Team Pramac) and Dovizioso (Team Ducati) and the Honda of Stefan Bradl's Team LCR. Tomorrow the choice of tires will be very important, so we will also work in the warm up to understand whether to use the hard compound or the soft one.
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Ducati Ducati, do we want to stop humiliating the pluricapone?
GREAT DANI AND GO!!!!!
mugello here is the new best lap, 4 tenths faster than Casey Stoner's time in 2012, here is the Honda that goes faster in high temperatures :).
However, a short time ago Pedrosa accused Marquez of copying the setting and here we are at the next race, in which it seems that something has actually changed, because Marquez was unable to obtain his usual results in qualifying.
For Rossi it's the usual script, riding alone he can't go fast enough on the qualifying lap.
Other riders who are smarter than him follow in the wake of those who are going fast and obtain better results, see Hayden, Bautista and even Iannone almost managed to do better.
…third row but still wins…
marco, or mugello, or another of your nicknames, I can't remember them all now...
Were you talking about Stoner's time?!? Among other things there were the qualifying tyres, which were a whole other world... AHAHAH Let's add this beautiful figure to your countless others. For example when there was no obligation to register…. But you should know what I'm referring to.
I foresee yet another nick change. Maybe after so many shitty acts* you change it, hoping that no one will recognize you...
Heartfelt CONGRATULATIONS to all those who at the beginning of the year thought Pedrosa was boiled, finished, etc. It wasn't really considered (except by me and a few others...)!!!! Or those who yesterday thought Honda was dead!!!!
Hahahaha GOOD! You sure have an EYE!!!! Ahahaha
Go Rossi and above all Go Suzuki.
Sorry, but did you know that Casey set the record in 2008 with the Ducati?
Qualifying tires or not, it took us 5 years to beat him with all the bike evolutions there have been, so?!
And rest assured that if there was a record this year it was still his with a new one.
With that being said, Casey N.1 and GO DANIII!!!!!
Well dear H954RR, do you know that some records have been held since well before 2008?… So what? With today's bikes and with qualifying tires like there were a few years ago, today's times would be at least 1 second lower (considering, as you say, the evolution of construction techniques in the tire sector)…
I'm very calm, I can't say the opposite about you....
It's not a given that if Stoner were on the track today he would have re-broken the record... He's a phenomenon, there's no question about it, but he's not unbeatable.
For your theory I tell you that if my parents made me race I would have won 18 world titles :)…
There is no one calmer than me, rest assured.
H954RR, last year Stoner himself went a tenth slower in qualifying than in 2008, so not even he was able to compete with a much more advanced bike.
I believe that if Stoner had been there again this year, Pedrosa's and Stoner's times would have been higher.
I believe that this year in HRC they all have Stoner's data available and have analyzed it, I'm not saying that they are using his settings, but certainly Pedrosa and Marquez can cover certain less strong points with some of Stoner's settings.
So if Stoner were still in MotoGP, Pedrosa and Marquez wouldn't be able to do certain times because they wouldn't have complete access to his data, similarly Stoner wouldn't have access to Pedrosa's data so they wouldn't be able to complete each other.
At Phillip Island at the end of the season we will see if Pedrosa will suddenly make big steps forward compared to last year or if Casey's data won't help him at all.
Ronnie, Dani for me is a great rider, another out of class even if he doesn't have any world title in his pocket, but personally I think Casey is superior and for this reason I am convinced that if he had been there, unfortunately he is missing, given the time what Dani did, Casey would definitely have done better.
It's my opinion to be clear, obviously it's not possible to know if I'm right or wrong.
PS sorry if it's unclear but I wrote in a hurry.
H.
If we consider the raw talent, Stoner is (in my opinion obviously) one of the best drivers in history, let's say in the Top 3 (even if for me it is 2).
But this is not enough. It has never been enough, in any competition (look at Gilles Villeneuve, I don't know if you know him, but he is absolutely my favorite driver).
Stoner has a bad head. And in this respect I consider it one of the worst :). He's only interested in racing, after all (quite right for me)... And the slightest interference (whether from the media, sponsors, interviews, etc.) stresses him out and destabilizes him in a disarming way. He was born at the wrong time.
bcs, there are data and DATA, the various riders can see the top speeds, the braking point, the gear selection, the lean angles...
But the data detected by the control unit, on the 200-odd channels, and its programming are a TABU, they cannot be passed, just as the calibrations of the traction control, the anti-wheelie, the anti-slip are not passed.
It's best to clarify what data you're talking about, when you say they can see each other's data.
Each rider has his own style, but I don't think that the set-ups of two riders with the same bike on the same circuit are opposite, they are not the same, but certainly some solutions designed to go faster in a sector, or in a certain corner they can be carried from one driver to another with the same results, so even some set up solutions can be copied.
Ronnie
No, you're wrong... ALL the data was visible from both Stoner and Pedrosa or Dovi when they were together... Same now...
They could and can see EVERYONE, not just certain things... You're out, sorry.
On the settings you can re-modify the teammate's setting and adapt it to the driver watching.
If it were as you say, i.e. half settings (half studied and half copied) the bike would suffer a performance crisis...
You make the setting on the rider and based on his sensations.... If you have another one available, you ADAPT it, you don't copy it exactly (as you claim)... From a performance point of view this would be suicide...
Ronnie
The data were also visible last year... Or rather Pedrosa could see Stoner's data and vice versa...
Ditto this year.
You can never copy the setting, as each rider has his own way of riding, perhaps similar, but similar is not the same.
Especially in a sport where even 0.000001 makes the difference, and totally changes the bike...
The data has always been available (on several occasions both Stoner and Dani declared that they were looking at each other's data)... Pedrosa has simply made a huge step forward in 1/2 seasons... Plus with this Honda he is perfectly at home....
Stoner is a phenomenon not God (no one is, let's be clear) :)
Lorenzo is impressive, he gets on the spare bike with Neto stuck and on the first lap he gets to the front row...pure talent!
……and made in 2008 with 800 engine, carbon monocoque frame etc.
excellent pedrosa, great tour chapeau
very consistent crutchlow with NOT official bike, it deserves the official one
Lorenzo, without the problem with his bike 1, would certainly be close to Pedro
Bautista is good and smart at staying away from anyone who could ruin his race
hayden is there by mistake but in the standings he is 2 points below mister9 hihihi
Marquez always excites but he will be in the game for sure.
others follow who have the pace for the podium and work in race configuration (they don't qualify)
ronnie, behind pedro there are 2 yamaha's so the heat has nothing to do with it or is it only hot for the 46?
bcs, SHUT UP.
Hahahaha Do you hear my voice?…
And why should I keep silent, sorry? We are in a democracy so I am free to WRITE.
Yes, you're right, it's better that I don't write to highlight the little figures you make.
ahahaha
free to write, unfortunately we are in a democracy, but not to shoot nonsense.....but who brought you up?
I understand that diverting the topic of the post is important for you hihihihihi
When it comes to cassate you are the most expert on the forum... I'm not making any mistakes, on the contrary (that's you)...
But whoever wrote: “bcs, SHUT UP”, it's not me.
Mugello I don't think at all that Lorenzo could have gotten close to Pedrosa, he would have remained at least 4 tenths away. Lorenzo himself said at the end of qualifying that he wasn't happy because the bike's performance worsened a lot in the heat. Crutchlow and Lorenzo will be on the front row but more than half a second apart.
You should listen to Jorge a little more when he talks, you know he usually says sensible things :)
The heat is not an excuse, it is the cause of Yamaha's counter-performance.
Among other things, Lorenzo did a tenth worse than last year, while Crutchlow with the 2012 bike did almost the time of Lorenzo last season, which seems to be indicative of the fact that the 2012 Yamaha sometimes, in qualifying it is more competitive than the 2013.
with moto 1 we will never know how it would have ended, (I listen to the riders a lot) then when you lose a bit of confidence you always lose I remain from the idea that tomorrow he will certainly be able to fight for the victory, I continue to think that Yamaha is very more balanced in the overall performance of the Honda.
It's difficult to say whether Honda or Yamaha is better, because often you are proven wrong by the performance of a particular rider.
Last year it seemed that the Yamaha wasn't the best bike, because only Lorenzo achieved great performances. This year Crutchlow is better so it seems that the Yamahas are better.
In my opinion, a Team HRC with Pedrosa and Stoner would have dominated this year, because I think Honda is superior, it's Stoner's absence that makes it seem less competitive than it is. I believe that with Stoner&Pedrosa competing this year, Honda would have won 13 to 15 GPs, leaving the crumbs to the others.
Furthermore, we are moving towards high temperatures, and in my opinion, without the asymmetric tyre, Yamaha's performance will deteriorate further. This weekend it seems to me that Honda has found the key to the problem with these tyres, I see it as tough for Lorenzo in the race, since FP4 he has been going strong but I don't think as much as Dani in terms of race pace.
The Yamahas seem easier to push to the limit, or it seems like it's easier to refine the setting, they've been going strong straight away, since Friday, while the Hondas had a little more difficulty finding the right compromise, but then they seem to be going better.
We'll see if anything changes with the new seamless gearbox for Yamaha, I think about a year ago, they said that there was no need for that gearbox, that theirs was a Yamaha not a Honda and that they were going ahead with their development and yet now they have followed the path taken from Honda, and this seems to me to be a clear sign of admission that the right development is that of the Japanese competitor.
Yesterday I said that Pedro was the most scary of all, despite his third place... and in fact...
Crutchlow also got behind them in FP3 and 4, so I don't take it for granted that Lorenzo would have been ahead of the Englishman with moto one, and apart from Pedro who did a crazy lap, there are nine riders in half a second, from Crutchlow to bradl… tomorrow we will see some beautiful ones… :D
Aeneas
POLL
Valentino Rossi returns to Yamaha, will he be on the podium straight away?
Yes, he is a Champion and I have no doubts (69%)
No, I doubt he can make the podium straight away, it will take time (31%)
Total Voters: 443
This survey, which is on this page in the right column, shows that 69% of people did not understand a thing of the history of Rossi and Moto GP.
Which ones are you among?
I wanted to add that it is now clear that a Lorenzo, a Pedrosa, a Stoner on a Ducati would immediately take the Italian to another planet... ah no Stoner no, it's true, he's already done it.
Conclusion: Rossi good rider, but with specific needs: no really strong teammate, better bike, scarcity of exceptional talents in the participant lists.
Aridateje Sete, maybe you'll be hungry again.
Sorry gigetto but didn't Rossi finish second in the first race in Quatar?
I'd say that 69% totally got it...
Hell of a Ronnie! But listen...are you sure you understand the survey? :D Or you understood it but couldn't resist...your fingers moved by themselves...:D
Valentino Rossi returns to Yamaha, will he be on the podium straight away?
The question seems clear to me, although to improve clarity it would have been better to write: "he will go to the podium immediately"
There's not much to interpret...
this is nice too, always to understand who's hanging around in here hehehe...
POLL
Who is the favorite for the 2013 MotoGP title?
Valentino Rossi (38%)
Jorge Lorenzo (21%)
Marc Marquez (19%)
Dani Pedrosa (17%)
Nicky Hayden (3%)
Andrea Dovizioso (2%)
Total Voters: 375
Look... not just in here, in other places it's much worse.
POLL
How do we explain the gigetto condition.
A) A serious accident as a child.
B) A serious accident as a child while returning from the cepu.
C) A serious accident as a child while returning from cepu together with *Marco-Mugello-etc. etc.
I vote I vote siiori and siiore!
Aeneas
…your touchiness is surpassed only by your motorcycle incompetence when the nurse touches you…shoot yourself in the p…and…gigetto is absolutely right…
fartman come back later, now I'm busy.
Aeneas
...but if you never do anything, with the excuse of the heat under Florence you can't work, you are no exception...see you tomorrow, boxer played...
Fartman I already told you I'm busy... come on... go play later...
Aeneas
I vote…mmm…A, because they didn't take me at the cepu! :D
This was more for connoisseurs, in fact only the most experts voted...
First race and first podium for Rossi, can he fight for the world championship?
No, Lorenzo is stronger, without neglecting Pedrosa and Marquez (51%)
Yes, he has what it takes to succeed (49%)
Total Voters: 124
Vote
in the hope that Shuhei keeps a good watch and the best one wins, as we have seen plenty of fake competitions.
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enea, cittu
cittu tie
hehehe mugello in a horde of rants you said something nice... hehehe :D
Aeneas
PS and I had to give you a green… hehehe :D
Aeneas
green returned (greens from strangers and Taliban are not accepted)
ti canuscu cirasa
MUAHAHAHAH :D
Aeneas