8 hours of Suzuka: Honda disaster, Stoner falls and fractures
Terrible crash for the two-time MotoGP champion, who was returning to an official competition
8 hours of Suzuka 2015 – Incredible epilogue for Honda at the Suzuka 8 Hours. Casey Stoner in fact fell disastrously on the fast curve preceding the hairpin, suffering a fracture of his right shoulder and left tibia.
The two-time MotoGP world champion, returning to official competition since Valencia 2012, lost control of his CBR-RRW after just five laps, destroying Honda's dreams, just as he was leading the race ahead of his "sister" FCC TSR and the official Yamaha which had won pole with Pol Espargarò.
The pilot wrote on Twitter “Well my #Suzuka8H ended spectacularly!Stuck Throttle = Broken Scapula + Fractured Tibia and a few more tweaks. Sucks!” then pointing his finger at the accelerator of his Honda which would have stuck. His flight was terrifying and the motorbike crashed several times, destroying itself while he was in command. The race goes on, but without one of the main protagonists and without the most victorious house it loses much of its charm.
Below is the video of Casey Stoner's crash at the 8 Suzuka 2015 Hours
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But what video did you put?????
Too bad about the fall…. It could have been the spark for a return to competition.
Now he will also take them from his wife who will immediately send him back to fishing……..
your ignorance has no limits…. a pilot gets hurt and what do you write???
the difference between a motorcyclist and a c@gli@ne
Nooooo my friend you were already emptying yourself…anyway it fell in a very bad place.
Gas blocked. Suzuka… It's not the first time this has happened. But thank goodness with different (albeit heavy) outcomes.
Best wishes to Casey for his recovery, he demonstrated (but there was no need) to some characters that he is not fast, more! Even if he has been out of action for more than 2 years.
Best wishes to Casey, with the hope that the competition flea is back!
We want you back on track!
for those who don't know and don't believe him, there are videos where they show and hear that the bike doesn't decelerate when the clutch is pulled... and in the end he throws it away to avoid the wall!
Honda has already had this problem in the past and poor Kato was killed
testicoloner can you tell me the numbers that will come out in the next superenalotto draw??
..hahaha with the clutch pulled the bike doesn't decelerate..and who pushes it, wizard Merlin?
if anything it doesn't slow down... but what video are you watching?!
then of course without engine braking and so suddenly going wide is a moment.. what a bang RollingStoner poretto..
if you're dazed... if you squeeze the clutch the bike certainly won't stay accelerated. but you understand what you want... strange that you didn't wish the worst like many others
of you wished him….
..what you write..I read:
..seeing and hearing that the bike does not decelerate when the clutch is pulled..
so you're probably the one who's stupid... writing in Italian...
apart from the extra "l"..you're probably right..he didn't even brake!!
..his ass got so tight that he threw himself..hence...rolling stoner..poretto I might add..and who wouldn't have pissed themselves?..
sorry stoner. Even though he is a rider who always seeks the limit, I don't think he is to blame. He is now no longer a rookie and would hardly have crashed without a technical problem.
Let's hope this doesn't make him stop wanting to do tests or participate in events like this... because doing one race a year and getting hurt shouldn't be nice...
:)
It's a certainty that it's not his fault.
He declared it first via Twitter.
Then Honda confirmed (this time it clearly admitted the technical error. While for another circumstance everyone knows what happened but Honda never clarified...).
The gas was blocked.
rolling stonerrrrrrr!
you instead ignorantonerrrrrrrrrrrr
From another video you can see how he lets go of the gas, and stays with the clutch pulled, and even tries to throw in one or two gears first, he certainly wasn't able to respond in time at that point to maintain a trajectory.
Nice shit when the electronics leave you alone...
I wonder which of the many details had a defect, and did not give the input that the throttle knob was turned. I think it was clear from the image in the other video that Casey turned the knob.
However, he was in the lead but hadn't achieved pole, Yamaha had both riders better than Stoner by more than 3 tenths, and Kawasaki was also just under 3 tenths behind Yamaha.
I'm not sure that despite Stoner they could actually take home the victory. Of course, at these levels, similar technical errors don't understand how they can happen, it's a race they've been preparing for a long time, it's not admissible. Also given Honda's experience in competitions.
There are 3 riders and the bike must be set up so that everyone has at least acceptable sensations and when you find yourself with a bike that is not entirely "yours", there may be a slight delay in qualifying. The same thing applies to everyone, this is true, but it is equally true that Stoner's settings are not digestible by everyone, so much so that, in Honda, they were quick to say that they had finally (before the race) found a discreet setting for everyone and the pilots.
I don't know anything, I didn't see the qualifications and I don't know how they were held. I can't tell you if the bike was always the same and they all had to ride with the same setting even in qualifying.
What is certain is that Stoner went much faster than his teammates in qualifying, and I believe that in qualifying the bike has a specific set-up, not entirely the same as that of the race, especially in terms of consumption.
Judging by the times, and by the fact that it's only the fastest that counts, I'd say the bike was set exclusively for Stoner in qualifying.
Yamaha on the other hand went strong with 2 riders with almost the same time.
This means that Yamaha still had a better team on the flying lap.
Stoner was in front when he crashed, so it means he started strong, and was perhaps the best as in the past in the first laps.
But the 8 hours comes out over the distance, and all 3 teammates count, furthermore if I understood correctly Espargarò had made a mistake that cost the team a minute. It's a shame for Honda and the technical problem because I think it would have been more difficult for Yamaha to recover if Honda hadn't had the problem with the gas.
Even if in the end, even if Stoner didn't lie down, or didn't have the problem, something could have happened to his teammates.
1) three tenths from one of the most promising and fastest MotoGP riders as well as in full competitive activity;
2) I remind you that the 8 hours is an endurance race, it is won thanks to the speed and consistency of the three drivers... the team made up of Pol Espargarò, Bradley Smith and Katsuyuki Nakasuga was the favourite... by far.
Stonami, who would be one of the most promising riders in MotoGP??? Pol Espargarò or Smith??
Come on, you can't compare Stoner to those 2, in MotoGP he has always been a cut above.
However, Yamaha hadn't won since the last century :) to be honest, so it's not like they had ever had this great bike for the Suzuka 8 hours...
This year's team was strong, but I think Honda wasn't too bad in the race either.
If they chose those riders to counter the Yamaha team and they won several times it means that they weren't really that clueless.
However, Stoner has prepared for this race and I don't know how much the fact that Espargarò and Smith race in MotoGP can count given that for them as well as for Stoner I think it is more complex to switch to this bike from a more sophisticated one than the other way around.
In short, this bike castrates their knowledge, even if Stoner, precisely because he was a test rider and rode with various bikes, was in a better position for Honda in this sense in my opinion.
But they are such different bikes with such different tires that it is difficult to say who had an advantage and who wasn't.
However, Stoner has always been seen as the one capable of adapting in a short time, and of driving over problems and going very fast on the flying lap, but here he didn't make the difference, which looking at the qualifying results of Pol Espargarò and Smith, is big compared to Casey. Those 2 riders struggle to beat Rossi in qualifying, Stoner would normally have given him 3 to 8 tenths in qualifying.
For me this means, either that Yamaha was superior on the flying lap, or that Honda had problems, or that Stoner actually lost speed on the flying lap and it no longer makes a difference even if it seems strange to me.
Ronnie, you only come to conclusions for convenience, not for concrete reasons. The bike was set for Stoner in qualifying because he paid off his teammates. This is certainly an aspect that has "strong" reasons to be true.
Also in partial response to the post you wrote to Stonami77, in Honda, Stoner has been out of action for 3 years, the young Van de Marck left last year, I don't remember anything about the Japanese.
Yamaha raced with 2 young riders who compete in motoGP. Even if not as fast as Stoner (and this is not certain after 3 years of stopping), they are certainly used to the race pace, to keeping a fast pace for a long time, something that Stoner hardly still has, at least in my opinion.
Race pace is what makes you win races even if you have a slower fastest lap than others.
Yamaha has 2, Honda only 1 and mostly without the necessary experience with the "big boys" of motorcycles.
Anyway, in my opinion it's Rossi's fault who pushed him to the outside....
But you know you may be right….. The images, we need to review the images.
Great Stoner, he got back into the game and gave an excellent performance, ruined by the accelerator failure. In SBK, if I remember correctly, Honda had problems until a few years ago with the electronic accelerator that, I presume, they were using.
I'm always sad to read that the explanations that Stoner gives of the incidents that happen to him are always contested just for the sake of it, because there are no real reasons to contest what Stoner declares, especially since he has always proven himself to be truthful in every declaration done.
Great Stoner, it's a real shame not to see you riding one of those racing cars that make up MotoGP.
A huge "good luck" for a complete recovery and may we see you back on the bike soon.
accelerator yes accelerator no when crashes of this kind are involved I don't like anyone who jokes about it or acts as a detractor, all that is needed here is respect, and I would say stoner deserves a lot of it because crashes like these don't happen to those who go into track just to take a walk and collect money, he put himself on the line like someone who has never won anything
big casey 1
Oh yes? I remember Rossi who fell last year in Aragon hitting his head violently...no one praised him, none of you showed respect.
You were all saying to offend him and make fun of him. You're as ridiculous as stupid@ tonykart, you like all the other stoner fans in here except I'm out of tune...bye!
I remember 10 years ago the fall of...
Come on…….
If someone "makes a mistake" (in quotation marks because I take what you write about Aragon as valid, even if I don't remember at all that he is taking Vale for a ride), is it permissible to do the same?
Now I'm going to try to dive into a puddle of manure, so you'll do the same.
Please, at least recognize when you write nonsense and try not to mix with "us", Stoner fans, continue to be a "good" Vale fan and leave him out of discussions that don't concern him for once, otherwise keep quiet about us to always talk about it out of turn.
I'm not a fan of Stoner and I think he has been rather overrated throughout his career...
...however, I'm sorry for what happened, and I believe that the same applies to any person with minimal sense: here we are talking about the LIFE of a driver, and when faced with this topic, cheering or sporting sympathies must be overridden. second floor…
Regardless of the intelligence of the fans of one faction or the other. I agree with you DURIM and I remember, albeit vaguely, the inappropriate satisfaction of the doctor's dear detractors, who today instead talk about values that they evidently know very little about.
Having said that, I'm happy that the Australian didn't suffer more serious consequences... my memory goes to Suzuka 2003...
Tonycart crashes like these can happen to anyone whose accelerator gets stuck..
…he was unlucky..
It doesn't seem to me that the other drivers are taking walks... he put himself on the line like everyone else... and if unfortunately the inconvenience were to happen again, it is to be hoped that nothing worse happens...
Of course it didn't go very well for Stoner...but it could have been worse...among other things he didn't even have a great escape route...he didn't have a good time...
Respect is also needed for everyone else... even for those who piss you off...
But as long as we talk about stoners oooohhhh be careful... if you talk about others they're half-socks for you..
I don't think that Stoner's "getting involved" is the same as the "getting involved" of the other drivers.
This seems obvious to me, but this is not the case for "you" according to what you write.
Stoner had everything to lose (if his performances were not up to par) and nothing to gain because if he had won (as he was destined to do), things would have returned to "his normality", while if he had set times that were too high , an endless discussion would have opened on the qualities of the pilot. The same reasoning does not apply (for obvious reasons) to any other 8 hour driver.
unfortunately motogranprix has become a scandalous page…. where everything is possible... from offending the family to wishing the worst to the heroes who put their asses on certain cars... and the truth is that for the most part they are fans of the worst m@fioso that has ever existed in sport. the one who can 'do what he wants' on motorbikes and in life. the one who says that Ducati and Italy are shit! and the dads defend him every time he runs. in short, shit page! like the majority of users who write!
Poor big head.. You stigmatize what you consider to be the wrong behavior of Rossi fans without realizing that you do exactly the same and right on this page.. You point the finger to condemn while doing the same things.. It is precisely this attitude that makes you one of the most valid exponents of the "USUAL IDI0TI"
..what are you trying to redeem yourself? I don't think you're a goody-goody at all.. if you look at the other posts on other drivers e.g. Rossi,
you are one of the first on the list you mentioned that spreads left and right...
if we want to make this site more pleasant it's up to us..
often writing with a poisonous tooth..
of course.. if I have sympathy for Rossi and you insult him I certainly won't let you get away with it..
There's a big difference from a joke to an insult and you often go through it...
..perhaps because it's based on Rosicate..
testicoloner, from what you write I deduce that you must have some serious problem! sec me you're one of those depressives who sniffs dirty panties from mom's laundry hamper….
never offended Rossi and his family... never offended anyone in here if I wasn't attacked first...
so don't talk for nothing.
you have found a place where you can write, offend and even threaten without anyone intervening.
I repeat that it is a shitty page@
..I repeat that you put a lot of effort into making it so..
then of course no one checks anyway and that's a really disgusting thing..
“and the truth is that for the most part they are fans of the worst m@fioso that has ever existed in sport. the one who can 'do what he wants' on motorbikes and in life. the one who says that Ducati and Italy are shit!" Do you recognize this piece of "high literature"?? It was written by a “great man of letters” who claims to have never offended Rossi…. In one fell swoop you have offended Rossi (mafioso) and his fans, who support a "mafioso" knowing full well that he is one.. Lastly you have put 2 outright lies, (ducati and Italy are shit@) that Rossi never dreamed of saying.. Then after having written these KA22ATE you come out like a beautiful soul to complain about how vulgar (oh well..) this site has become.. BUT WE'LL LIKE IT...... You're ridiculous like few others, poor big head, a true human case of galloping IDIOZIA………..
first, it's not an insult but the pure truth... I haven't called Ross a son of a p... or the people who defend him even when he makes mistakes...
second, someone who evades more than 100 million and solves the matter with nothing is either a mafioso or I don't know what to call him... third, don't come and tell me that he has never been protected and helped by scandalous regulations because you would be a liar... fourth, I remind you that in order to keep him in MotoGP his uncle paid his salary and forced Yamaha to let him race after the Ducati stint. all lies?? are they offended?? I think the various titles you give are more offensive. testicoloner… insults you have my children…. to the family... I repeat, nice shit page!
So, in your opinion, calling someone a mafioso is not an offense..?? If you're talking to Totò Riina, maybe not, but if you tell Rossi, definitely yes, or maybe you have the evidence in which case take it out or talk to the judiciary, if you don't have it, SHUT UP, it's better.. Of everything you have only 2 things written are true (one partially) i.e. that Rossi evaded taxes (even if the story is now stale) but he didn't get away with anything as you claim, he negotiated 70 million with the taxman... I inform you that the plea bargain is a LEGAL tool available to everyone, including you and me, not just Rossi, so you said a KA22ATA, as always.. Then in this regard you should explain to me why the "Monegasque" receives money from Aprilia without paying one euro in taxes as a resident of Montecarlo STILL but this doesn't seem to offend your sensitivity like the 46 affair of 5 years ago... With the not insignificant detail that since then Rossi has paid all the taxes down to the last lira unlike others … What is it that you have sensitivity to alternating current..?? Or, always 2 weights and 2 measures..??
The second true thing is that Rossi returned to Yamaha thanks to his uncle's intercession, but perhaps you should also say that Lin Jarvis is still there thanking him for having "imposed" him.... I would also say that Rossi repaid Yamaha's "magnanimity" with results.. Results that no one believed in, least of all you idiots..!! Last but not least, stop acting like a "fucker" with the story of the alleged offenses against your family that no one has ever seen, otherwise tell us who did it and show us the offending post.. If these pages hurt your virginal soul, take action x first to make them more liveable instead of always provoking and offending Rossi and his fans you will see that you will get more respect in return, even if I already know that these are empty words….
see what you write bullshit.... First he didn't settle for 22 million but he defended himself by saying that it was Badioli's fault.... and in the end he got away with 70 million euros. if the mafioso doesn't escape here.... According to Lin Jarvis he didn't bet a single euro on Rossi but he was forced to. and as everyone knows the results came after 12 years of Yamaha (I would ask myself some questions...) thirdly if you say it didn't help I'll give you a list of all the unpunished misconduct. Fourth, ask your friend Lyonn the insults he did to my children.... even though he keeps going around it and saying it's not true! I know what he said and wrote and it disgusts me to remember it - do you want another tax expert _ ???
Yes, I would like a little more honesty from you but I realize I'm asking too much... You say tax expert to me, when it's you who has raised the tax issue for the umpteenth time, because you no longer know what to attach yourself to, you're really a phenomenon... Anyway, if you want to talk about it, at least do it with good reason, not the KA220 as you always do.. Rossi settled for 60 million (size of the evaded amount) after an initial tax request of 112, the amount was reduced because he had paid anyway of taxes in both England and Italy, so those figures were removed from the total calculation. As you can see, the figure was 60 million, not 100 as you claimed, FIRST KA22ATA.. Rossi ultimately paid 35 million (not 12 as you say SECOND KA22ATA) in taxes on 60 assessed persons because he took advantage of the "assessment with membership" with which the evader obtains discounts on penalties in exchange for effective collaboration with the tax authorities. The assessment with membership is a tool available to everyone, there is no need to bother the mafia for this... Feel free to search on the internet and you will find everything... I confirmed to you that Yamaha didn't want Rossi, no one would have bet a penny on him him, but try asking him now…………..!!!!!!!!!!! ROSSI WAS NOT HELPED, give me the list of all the alleged "unpunished misconduct" and alongside it also put the list of supporting evidence, without which, your whole list remains just a donkey's braying.. Regarding the alleged insults to your Lyon family, I DON'T BELIEVE IT, firstly because I have never seen anything like it and anyway he denies it, secondly because you have given ample proof of being a liar and victimizer "whore and fucks", so I don't you deserve no credit.. In any case, even if, hypothetically it were true, it would have been a single episode by a single user, it's not like all Rossi fans offend your family every other day too, as you suggest, my dear victimizer...
ah, wash your cap or pacifier if you lose water, fill up with soap…
Since you're right, give me all the links available on the history of taxation.
I hope you don't have children and have been offended by shit like what happened to me... no shit.
Well there's little to say about the incorrectness... let's list 2 bar three... ask Gibernau in Jerez, Casey in Laguna, Dovizioso last year. but naturally, being a ball@ro, you will find very specific excuses here too! hello tax advisor!
oh I forgot and I repeat…. lj has been happy with reds for about a year. and I keep repeating that a great miracle has come true!!!! after 3 and a half years of non-existence he was reborn!!!!! the mysteries of life that you will naturally be able to explain to me
Find the links yourself, a smart guy like you can certainly do it... In the lagoon Rossi also suffered from Marquez but as always double standards.... simple race episodes, anyway tests please... Regarding Rossi's rebirth, yes I have an answer: he is a phenomenon and has a monstrous determination, the one that Stoner lacks... I salute you "ass and fucks"
there is a difference between me and you…. when overtaking Marc at Laguna I said he should be penalised.. as I always say that you can't punish the teacher over the student... see Assen!
now you tell me to look for the links myself?? you're really ridiculous!
about the resurgence of reds you are probably right as always.
Marc's overtaking at the lagoon was very smooth and well done in my opinion.. In fact, Rossi laughed at it.. There's no need for links, go to Google and type “rossi, taxes” a world will open up for you.. Obviously you're not as smart as I thought...
For the last one, I know I'm right thanks.
you see that you are more and more ridiculous…. when Rossi was overtaken in the lagoon he wanted to make a complaint!! he was there to tell him that it was better to keep quiet! and in my opinion it was the only time Rossi was right to make a complaint! but people smarter than you told him that it was better to let it go since the dirty thing had been done by him first.
However, I agree with you about everything
How do you know that Rossi wanted to make a complaint...?? Were you there at the lagoon with them..?? Should I take the word of a KA22AR0 like you..?? Try it please..!!!
Nothing right..?? as always, with you "usual IDI0TIs", when someone asks for feedback on your ramblings... You're ridiculous as usual, but you're used to it by now....!!!!
@Testoner
I'm coming for the umpteenth and hopefully last time on the topic of offending your children...
Explain to everyone how I may have offended your children, given that I have explained the episode several times and you have never replied but you continue to say that I offended them.
You are truly mentally retarded, this is the twentieth time I've spoken about this and you still haven't understood the point.
You will also have a certain financial availability, as you often hasten to reiterate but you certainly don't shine in intellect.
I think… the only offense to your family is you.
I would be ashamed to walk around people in your company.
I look forward to finding out how I may have offended your son, you idiot.
I'm sorry to call you retarded and idiotic but I have to surrender to the evidence: I thought you were doing it and instead you are.
Until next time.
you're right about everything shitty man@.
as already said, I have created a position in life for myself... and I have a wonderful family.
and you know it well since you peeked at my fb profile. but like all rabbits you peek and sing without being recognized.
you are alone in life and also a rich man.
This is a category of people that I don't regret offending.
@Testoner
As we wanted to demonstrate, you're right there.
Your semi-illiteracy prevents you from correctly interpreting the words that make up the sentences and therefore for you the meaning of the speeches is total darkness.
You still have time to get the eighth grade with the 150 hours, they give it to everyone for free if you attend the lessons.
Don't waste this opportunity: you will begin to understand the meaning of sentences, speeches and you too will be able to read, write and make yourself understood.
Have a nice day, “Goat”
better goat and happy than rich and lonely like you are.
remember that in life you don't have to know how to write.
but to speak and do facts.
I made myself available with my name and surname with you.
but you were only able to snoop around without making yourself known.
good evening shit@
There is a close Rossi-stoner bond, both half-wanks.
I don't understand those who say Stoner is great, he's back in the game, but what did he do to be great???
A few laps. Mha!!!!!
..no no but what are you saying! ..look, he did 5 or even 8 laps..
considering it was a 24 hour...my bad!
..er 8 hours!
The same "smart guy" (ligera) who wrote that Stoner got back into the game, also wrote: "if he had won (as he was destined to do)" When he crashed, after a few laps of the race, Stoner was actually in the lead but in a race that lasts 8 HOURS the positions change many times…. How can you easily say that he was destined to win...?? Do you have a crystal ball or was it just hope..?? More simply, you have missed another opportunity to remain silent with dignity...
maybe he speaks like this because unlike you who are here to c@zzeggi@re and offend he has seen and is informed.
Casey earned an eternity on everyone. and I think it's normal even if he was riding the worst bike of the lot and not developed by reds like Yamaha…. (because most of you say this…)
normal because a MotoGP rider of his caliber makes the difference against most of those who race.
just look at Rossi Edwards… Smith Espargaro… or other pairings that ran and won the 8 Hours.
so you've missed yet another opportunity to shut up!
I repeat that you have found the right pigsty where you can say your f@xxed things!
I would say that perhaps, or rather definitely, you talk like this because you are both incompetent.. On the fifth lap of an 2 hour race run by teams of three drivers you already knew who would win..?? Unfortunately this is your level of competence... It's fine if you think that stoner is superman but common sense (if you had any) should suggest that on the fifth lap an 8 hour race is not open it's wide open... The only the true fact is that he didn't take pole... Maybe in your imaginary, stoner-centric world, he won the race... A bit like Marquez who feels like the moral winner of absent... It would mean that in your imaginary world Marc is leading the world championship and Stoner won the Suzuka 8 hours, is that okay...??
Reds fans are like him... shitty rikkioni
Testicoloner, panty sniffer!! What did you drink? Shall we go back to your posts on reds during the 2 years on the rotary cultivator? You, lingerie, fartman, tonyscarto, h7rrzx1 and a few other boys have slandered as the first of the flag-turning cowards would do. Get over it and calm down. Stoner no longer races and Rossi is leading the MotoGP. Thank the network that allows you to say stupid things freely without showing your face. Network jesters.
I totally agree with you, mudguard head. I've always called Rossi a disgrace and wished him the worst... thank goodness you're here!!! in these cases my country apologizes and gives reason to people like you.
so excuse me
I'll give you the reason!
you are also spineless!
I agree with you!
But why don't you all have a nice chamomile?
Bah. I don't understand trying at all costs (because "extreme" support doesn't allow it) to denigrate or discredit PHENOMENA (because that's what they are) who go at 350 an hour and drive in a way that none of us will be able to. to reach.
The phenomena are very few and instead of admiring them, they try to discredit driver X (in this case Rossi and Stoner).
Well, I don't understand.... I love different motorcycling. Not football.
tester
How is the new headquarters going?
@Testoner
I actually know what little you reported on the site, otherwise it's completely dark.
Returning to us and this page that you don't like but frequent, how have I offended your children, little man?
Do you continue to play the victim (for me you are one of the usual quaqquaraqquà) or do you reveal to me and to all the users (whom you hate because they are not as dense as you) how I offended your children?
Hello sweetie..., go cry to those who listen to you...
Lately I've tried to avoid you, precisely because of what I'm going to write, but you, worse than a tick, continue to poke the writings of people who don't give a damn about you. Nostalgia?
Let's get to your post.
As always happens to you, you take a sentence and remove it from the context in which it is inserted and you go on journeys... Was what you tried at least good?
Tell the truth, you didn't understand anything about the meaning of my post, right?
I won't continue because any user in here with a minimum of coherence immediately understands the bullshit you're spouting left and right.
Are you by any chance the same bestlap who first writes that he negotiated a settlement (referring to Rossi who shouldn't even appear here by the way) for 70 million, then 60 and finally he paid 35. You're not the one who wants proof, out the evidence of these numbers shot a bit "as it comes".
Leave me alone please, if I want to talk to c@gli@ni, I talk to my own. You remember this phrase right?
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